[01:57:21] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: From here on in, all peer review in all journals will be handled by specially trained infants to ensure maximum quality. [01:58:46] And today in questionable peer review: Frederick & Gallup Jr. "The demise of dinosaurs and learned taste aversions: The biotic revenge hypothesis" Ideas in Ecology and Evolution 2018 https://ojs.library.queensu.ca/index.php/IEE/article/view/6802 [02:01:37] From the article: "Much of the available evidence suggests birds descended from dinosaurs." [02:01:49] Only, "much"? [02:01:59] #teachthecontroversy [02:02:12] As I recall, the scientists who suggested a non-dinosaurian origin for birds are all dead. [02:03:22] I'd hedge my bets too. You never know what'll get overturned later on. [02:03:44] Supernovy, today was our physics festival, Rocky Kolb spoke about Einstein and the cosmological constant. [02:04:09] TLDR: Flowers, which were around for around 60 million years before the dinosaurs went extinct, contributed to their extinction because natural selection is not a thing based on a single study from the 80's. [02:04:24] "So the lesson here is to never admit you're wrong. He said he made a mistake, what an idiot! If only he'd held his ground, people would remember him for the cosmological constant, instead of forgetting him." [02:04:53] Supernovy: The problem with overturning the origins of the birds is that it would, at this point, require alien intervention and the acceptance that some dinosaurs (such as raptors) would still be birds. [02:05:41] "Much of the available evidence suggests F = ma" [02:06:02] that's a definition! [02:06:51] Yeah, and a not very useful one since using gives you the wrong answer. [02:07:58] Moreover, we actually do have strong evidence that plant eating dinosaurs incorporated visual displays to attract mates. It's not much of a stretch to argue they'd also be able to visually distinguish edible and inedible plant matter like modern birds. [02:08:56] Wait, is the argument that dinosaurs were too dumb to not eat flowers and so they all died? [02:09:57] Supernovy: Eat *bad* flowers. The authors connect an old study to caiman's inability to avoid poisonous foods to plant eating dinosaurs, ignoring that caiman's are carnivores. [02:10:34] and they're the wrong kind of reptile, too. [02:10:52] It's . . . Not a good paper. To be frank, it doesn't actually present any new evidence, and seems to parrot a paper made by one of the co-authors from several decades ago. [02:11:56] Also: The beginning of the paper is rather odd. They go at length to compare the Chicxulub Impactor's effects to nuclear winter, even though I think most scientists that publish papers on either topic would scoff at the comparison. It's almost like it's there simply for padding. [02:11:58] they're the out-legs type rather than the down-legs type [02:12:15] but I think all the down-leg types are gone. At least the reptile ones. [02:12:42] Supernovy: Sprawling. Other non-dinosaurian erect (down-legs) were phony pillar-erect types. [02:13:06] I'm Chicxulub, I'm wild. [02:13:47] From the article, regarding the impactor: "However, upon entering the Earths atmosphere much of the mass would have been vaporized due to the extreme heat caused by air friction." [02:14:07] I'm afraid I'll need a citation for the first part, and that last part is iffy. [02:14:42] This is a great IRC channel to post the "heat caused by air friction" thing. [02:14:47] How much delta-v savings is Duna aerobraking worth when landing? [02:14:51] Action: Scolar_Visari mutters something about air being compressed and thus heated by the oncoming bollide. [02:15:24] lordcirth: Less than it would be with Mars? [02:15:28] Friction, adiabatic compression, close enough. [02:15:47] Yeah, and I haven't seen the models myself but I'd bet the percentage of mass lost by an entering object decreases with increasing object mass. [02:15:54] lordcirth: uh, ideally on the order of your orbital speed. [02:16:02] Supernovy: Dat reduction of surface area. [02:16:03] Playing at 4x scale; 3km/s to take off is rough enough [02:16:15] they're technically right about the vaporized bit modulo the vernacular meaning of "ENTIRELY vaporized" heh [02:16:41] UmbralRaptop, and how's the heat? [02:16:45] I can't imagine an extinction level asteroid having *much* vaporized relative to their staggering masses. [02:17:06] Well, it'd be Duna orbital velocity minus Duna terminal velocity, plus deorbit burn delta-v. [02:17:21] lordcirth: afraid I don't know. [02:17:33] Though it's not like having that mass completely burn up in the atmosphere would be more palatable. You know, because there'd still be an explosion. [02:18:12] Scolar_Visari, yea that was my joke :P [02:18:23] Oh yeah. If they're big enough they tend to go up all at once, don't they? [02:18:40] Really? [02:19:09] holy crap, that's amazing! [02:24:19] Well, not only does this article us an encyclopedia as one of its references (a big no-no), it also conflates, "dinosaurs were in gradual decline before extinction" with (in its own words), "The disappearance of dinosaurs was gradual rather than sudden. [02:25:02] To quote the source the article was using for its latter claim: "Although Mesozoic dinosaurs undoubtedly dominated the terrestrial megafauna until the end of the Cretaceous, they did see a reduction in their capacity to replace extinct species with new ones, making them more susceptible to sudden and catastrophic environmental changes, like those a [02:25:02] ssociated with the asteroid impact." [02:25:25] How did this get through peer review? Did no one bother to check anything? [02:26:21] And more dubious claims: "Caimans as representative crocodilians descendant from dinosaurs appear incapable of developing learned taste aversions." [02:27:20] I'm not even sure pre-Dinosaur Heresies paleontologists would have ever said that crocodiles were, "descendant from dinosaurs". [02:28:48] oh wow neat, it's air pressure dependent [02:30:20] Yeah! Wrong legs! [02:32:00] Action: Scolar_Visari looks up the journal's impact factor. Last recorded at 1.39 back in 2015. [02:32:46] Thank Heavens I guess? [02:34:19] Now look up Chicxulub's impact factor! [02:34:42] Supernovy: It's literally off the scale if we rate citations by number of species extinguished. [02:35:42] Action: Scolar_Visari now has more reasons to stay away from evolutionary psychology. [02:37:45] Now . . . to get CKII DLC or not to get it. [02:38:25] just got it during the promotion, Scolar_Visari? [02:40:09] SnoopJeDi: Indeed, I would not have ever gotten it otherwise. However, a game where *losing* should be as much fun as *winning* seems intriuging. [02:40:41] Action: Scolar_Visari snickers at the thought of creating super Hapsburgs. [02:40:45] As opposed to games where losing is more fun than winning. [02:40:57] So long as it's barely losing, most games are as fun losing [02:42:16] Well, if they have bad ending cutscenes. [02:42:29] Action: Scolar_Visari notes this does not apply to Mass Effect 3, of course. [02:43:01] I suppose $5 for the ability to create the Haus of Visari wouldn't be too demanding. [02:44:42] Scolar_Visari, I know nothing about it except that a colleague has sunk in hundreds of hours, prompting another to dub the game Parliment Simulator [02:46:02] SnoopJeDi: It's a dynasty management simulator, with the options of incompetance, illiteracy and inbreeding [02:46:26] yea, looks neat [02:49:40] incredible contour plot of Valles Marineris: https://github.com/fogleman/terrarium [02:50:49] The Mariner Valley? [02:52:28] Ooh& [02:52:40] SnoopJedi: It's also horrifyingly complicated, like most other Paradox games. [02:53:06] Scolar_Visari, 10/10 look forward to bouncing off of [02:53:20] Action: Scolar_Visari tries to figure out what nationality to use for the Haus of Visari. [02:54:45] I want to start out as a lesser vassal, because I'm sure I'm not up to the task of handling the Norman Conquest of England or the Holy Roman Empire. [02:58:09] Horodyskyj et al. "Habitable Worlds: Delivering on the Promises of Online Education" Astrobiology 2018 https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/a73a/243f1b317825b63f0c6b13ddc280320ceebe.pdf [02:59:00] This . . . Habitable Worlds should be the basis for a game. [03:01:20] Why limit this to enrolled students alone? [03:03:48] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders a, "prettied up" version of Habitable Worlds with the players responsible for multiple generations of scientists and explorers starting with an astronomy grad student discovering habitable worlds and ending with a field biologist surveying the target worlds in person. [03:03:48] ok this is the most absurd conference I have heard about: BlockchainGamer Connect Conference [03:03:53] like... WAHT? [03:04:23] Hey . . . IT'd be like Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life! [03:04:48] ve2dmn: I'm sure there are more absurd conferences. Like the Flat Earth Conference. [03:05:01] True [03:05:28] RMT MMO, where the ingame transactions use blockchain verification? [03:05:56] ve2dmn, Cryptokittiemon? [03:06:08] I forgot about that thing [03:06:21] 统芜丑? [03:06:31] anti-conferencers Conference [03:06:31] er, wait. different cats. [03:06:35] http://www.pgconnects.com/sanfrancisco/blockchain-gamer-connects/ [03:08:04] UmbralRaptop: I wanna see MMOs that use household chores as in-game currency. [03:08:33] "This +2 Machine Gun of Lightning will cost ya ten weeks of washing dishes." [03:08:57] Scolar_Visari: wasn't there already an online version of The Sims? [03:09:17] Scolar_Visari: like the mini-games in some games (No more heroes?) [03:09:17] Psht, since when do you *have* to do chores in The Sims? Most of my Sims never live long enough for that to be an issue! [03:09:36] I was thinking of actual chores. So stuff gets done. [03:10:02] Action: Scolar_Visari was never really any good at The Sims. [03:10:24] hah [03:10:57] Though, I will admit, playing EVE always felt like a chore. Or most MMOs, for that matter. [03:11:08] wow, habitable worlds looks pretty cool, Scolar_Visari [03:11:23] might have to bring that up with some of my astro colleagues, they're generally bold about trying new pedagogical stuff [03:12:37] Scolar_Visari, hmm, so the game idea you were silhouetting....kinda like Universe Sandbox, but with a cogent plot? [03:12:39] SnoopJeDi: The program seems to have started circa 2011, but I really do see some good potential for this to be spun off given the rising popularity of things like KSP since its release. [03:12:52] SnoopJeDi: I was thinking Space Engine but sure? [03:12:56] and checkpointed "right answers?" or something? [03:13:46] Action: Scolar_Visari laments the delayed release of Space Engine's next version. [03:14:00] Also: https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/interactive/bomb-blast/ [03:14:07] Scolar_Visari: I felt lost in Space Engineer... [03:14:16] What are you suppose to do in that game? [03:14:18] Sarcastic response: sim decadal survey [03:14:26] LOL [03:15:31] ve2dmn: Probe the universe. [03:15:48] It's also excellent for exercising the mouse scroll wheel finger. [03:15:48] ve2dmn: I think treat it as MERCURY6, but with a better ui and flexability at the expense of worse integrators? [03:16:09] Also: Space Engine, not Space Engineer. [03:16:34] One simulates the entire universe, the other involves legos or something I guess? [03:17:46] Action: UmbralRaptop might be thinking of something else. [03:19:20] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:19:33] UmbralRaptop: http://spaceengine.org/ [03:20:27] that fancy graphics version of nukemap killed my phone's ram. =\ [03:20:33] UmbralRaptop, underrated joke [03:21:00] spaceengine.org? better try it on my phone with 4gb of ram [03:21:27] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders if UmbralRaptop should really be UmbralRaphone. [03:21:29] UmbralRaptop, what site? [03:22:59] https://outrider.org/nuclear-weapons/interactive/bomb-blast/ [03:23:00] Scolar_Visari: I was confusing space engine with universe sandbox. >_> [03:23:06] UmbralRaptor: Ho ho ho ho. [03:23:22] Univengine Spacebox [03:23:37] compare: https://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ [03:23:37] Seriously though: Habitable Worlds + Harvest Moon = The Weyland Yutani simulator? [03:23:42] (3) H O W T O D O A N I N T E G R A T I O N [03:23:48] what an amazing line of text [03:24:01] might be one of the best things I've ever seen in a README [03:24:01] SnoopJeDi: Step one: Remember how to space. [03:24:18] site's going strong on my galaxy s8 [03:24:31] SnoopJeDi: first, you summon an egg& [03:25:03] stir in some bofh and a pinch of fiora [03:25:48] Neal: it was the outrider.org one& on a Nexus 5X (2 gig ram) [04:49:43] Solar eklipse, neat [04:49:58] well, from this ship's perspective [04:50:35] oh blast, blocking my solar panels [04:51:29] in ksp solar eclipses are daily routine [04:52:15] fun to see, but a pain on the EC production [05:03:53] it nevr gets dark, and you realize it from the solar panels [05:03:59] really annoying [05:10:41] haha, I just broke the stock KSC markers [05:10:55] you tried to use them for your launchpads [05:11:19] http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4265.png [05:11:38] ship is spinning at an extreme rate [05:12:26] http://taniwha.org/~bill/screenshot4266.png [05:15:15] automatic ship spinning [05:15:35] I spun it up deliberately [05:16:29] even gentle spin breaks the markers [05:16:42] lol [05:16:48] I'd better test this in a pristine install [05:54:08] ISS Urine Tank Level: 43% [05:57:39] seems a lot higher than last time. [05:58:06] well, it is saturday night [05:59:09] Party in the cupola! [05:59:17] waste water tank over 66%, so they've been at it for a while [06:07:27] Have a cuppa in the cupola [06:59:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v nasonfish' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:30:53] morning [07:31:20] star [07:48:32] as in Venus, or the weapon? [08:15:05] or spaceship. doesnt matter [08:26:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:23:35] hehe this is too funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO3JgPUJ6iQ [09:23:35] YouTube - Chinese Invisibility Cloak Hoax DESTROYED!!! [09:23:44] as he imitates some science youtubers [09:40:40] captain D so good [09:41:13] yes but i havent expected this [09:41:47] when he appeared as martin poliakoff that was so funny. and then came the others [10:06:54] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o BPlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [11:14:33] more than 11 months without backup, it is time to do it [11:17:33] No, you shouldn't. You already saved yourself disk space worth 11 months of backups, you can do better! [11:18:02] Althego is living the life. :D [11:34:02] instead of making backups, I just remember the techniques involved in the creation of all these files [11:49:56] GlassYuri: Even when and where you took pictures? [11:49:59] Do you know time travel? :P [11:50:12] https://78.media.tumblr.com/31ce6cb0d880247d5be92af0045ecd7b/tumblr_inline_ndci981PVZ1qdy39p.jpg [11:52:25] Hello Fluburtur [11:52:25] Mat2ch, no, I back those up, as in, I save the only copy on the backup drive [11:52:33] :D [11:58:24] https://78.media.tumblr.com/11120e7ab91dc14df837e08eff81cec1/tumblr_n52i3t0PYb1svai1po1_500.jpg [12:00:50] lol [12:02:46] https://78.media.tumblr.com/1036650efb14b286ee62e2db7be7d2ab/tumblr_inline_p6sl4w4cGQ1vsf0hg_500.jpg [12:03:27] ndg was saying half jokingly, the fastest way to mars is to convince politicians china wants to build a base there [12:03:57] what a sad world [12:04:07] not driven by science but money and concurence [12:04:35] that got people to the moon [12:04:45] time to take over the entire world and as the master of the world declare that the entire solar system needs to be colonized in a decade [12:04:46] (and they checked that off and never went back) [12:05:07] decade lol, maybe 100 years [12:05:46] no [12:05:50] one decade [12:07:01] also I will ban money because who needs that [12:47:16] it's funny how the oil joke is not funny anymore thanks to Tesla [12:47:28] it will be lithium jokes next [12:49:14] we are far from that [12:49:34] if Lithium gets to expensive you just filter it out of the ocean [12:49:40] *too [12:49:57] but there may be issues with rare earth metals [12:52:14] It's entirely possible to build electric motors without rare earth metals [12:52:24] also a friend started making me a website to sell stuff hopefully [12:52:45] not like I've been asking my cousin to do that for like 4 months and my friend decided to do that just yesterday [12:53:41] there's a problem with motivation. Being able to do something and wanting to do it are different things. [12:54:15] Ultra pure silicon is getting scarce, though [12:54:28] my cousin can do it he is just lazy [12:54:39] silicon? one of the most common material [12:54:42] Production capacities can't keep up with demand for solar panels and stuff [12:54:57] Althego: Sand, not silicon [12:55:13] If you get me 99.99% silicon out of sand easily, I give you a cookie [12:55:32] hehe [12:55:55] as usual that is hard. like with aluminium and titanium, both common, just in oxidized state [12:56:38] So you expend energy (and thus, indirectly, oil and coal) to produce silicon wafers for solar panels [12:56:49] And it kind of defeats the point [12:57:11] yes, the problem with renewable energy that it costs a lot of non renewable energy [12:57:17] it has to make up for it during its life [12:57:23] this is why hybrid cars are silly [12:57:42] Hybrid cars are a joke anyway [12:58:04] You drive on gas and the electric motor is switched on during braking or something [12:58:07] my dad has one [12:58:26] it has fairly good acceleration at low speed with the electric motor [12:58:50] I say whatever your dad has, the acceleration of that is not good [12:58:59] The acceleration of a Tesla is :P [12:59:07] a parallel hybrid would use the internal combustion engine for high sustained speeds [12:59:21] well I never got to try a tesla [12:59:36] Teslas are the new hype around here [12:59:44] a series hybrid seems to be better. an optimized small engine running on constant speed to chargethe batery [12:59:53] lot simpler and efficient [12:59:53] When you see a Tesla on the road, everyone is shouting "Look! Tesla! Tesla!" [12:59:58] hehe [13:00:32] I don't think teslzs are that popular here yet [13:01:01] they are expensive even for western europe [13:01:12] i doubt there is more than a dozen here [13:01:23] My dad didn't know what Teslas were a while ago. He saw a car and was dazzled because it had no exhaust pipe [13:01:37] lol [13:02:14] one reason I don't like elextric cars too much is they they don't make enough noise [13:02:19] can't hear them coming [13:02:26] There are not many on the street here, but you do see them occasionally [13:02:27] yes that is a huge issue actually [13:02:30] for safety [13:02:33] streets* [13:02:41] because we are accustomed to the noise [13:02:49] Put an ambulance siren on them [13:02:57] we'll get used to them [13:03:13] and I always listen to music when im ourside [13:03:16] But seriously, /adding/ sound should not be the problem [13:03:32] i think they are already doing that [13:03:41] "Beeeeeeeep" [13:04:30] Or everyone just downloads an app which alerts them if a car is nearing the place where they intend to cross the street [13:04:56] won't work for me [13:04:57] ah those funny germans http://kep.cdn.indexvas.hu/1/0/1981/19818/198187/19818705_f7fd172431cd4a8fcd9f36f21ff8f3fe_x.jpg [13:05:10] I have a super cheap phone thing that doesn't do internet or crap like that [13:05:15] Will probably work better than things work now, because people look into their mobiles rather than left and right anyway [13:05:23] but they cars have gps so they can go beeep when they near a crossing [13:05:53] Althego: Is that Germany? [13:06:10] supposedly marathon in berlin [13:06:17] Fluburtur: They can also go boom when near a crossing. :P [13:06:31] heh [13:06:39] Althego: Just in case, this is not a nominal situation [13:06:40] ok, half marathon [13:06:43] there was a marathon in paris too [13:07:16] But it's a good way to control your speed [13:07:30] If you start slowing down, the pineapple starts falling forward [13:07:38] And you keep running [13:07:55] havent thought of that [13:09:10] heh i made the backup image with old nvidia driver [13:09:14] doesnt matter [13:10:30] Note to self: Don't integrate an accelerator output without subtracting gravity [13:10:37] hehehehe [13:11:21] Accelerometer, even [13:12:50] dont forget to correct for earth curvature in long distances :) [13:13:31] (schuler tuning) [13:13:32] That's flattering, but I am pretty sure this drone won't have enough range for this effect to become significant [13:14:30] drone? [13:14:46] we are the borg [13:16:27] The borg? [13:18:26] the only humanoid species i know of t hat has drones (and could use the pineapple) [13:27:43] APlayer: resistance is futile [13:27:58] Is it? [13:28:07] we are the borg [13:34:14] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3867yZAAST8 [13:34:14] YouTube - Wir sind die Borg! [13:34:20] this is the best in german [13:49:42] https://i.redd.it/fq5o36ybimq01.jpg [14:46:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:08:37] I might try changing the engines on my koyuz T [15:08:46] since all the first stage engines are vectors [15:11:08] Is it reusable? [15:11:20] a soyuz? why would it be [15:11:25] not the boosters but everythinh else can be landed [15:11:33] It's a Koyuz, though [15:11:51] yes because in ksp every rename must include a k [15:11:54] So, if the first stage is reusable, nevermind the vectors, they are perfect [15:12:10] If it is not, they get way too expensive [15:12:28] well im playing sandbox [15:12:45] I want to see if it can fly with weaker engines [15:12:48] That does not allow you to throw out federal budget money [15:13:09] i thought kerbals are in an empire [15:13:14] or dictatorship [15:14:05] They are a perfect, self-governing society that needs no politics [15:14:23] motivated by science and explosions [15:14:48] lots of explosions [15:15:16] They are so fond of that, that their only interstellar communication channel, the #KSPOfficial, prohibits the discussion of politics [15:16:29] we are an anarcho-syndicalist commune :) [15:16:45] No, we are a dictatorship [15:16:50] Action: APlayer wields his banhammer [15:17:30] this was a quote from monthy python... [15:18:39] now we see the violence inherent in the szstem [15:19:49] Hi guys! [15:19:54] can u help me? [15:19:59] add more boosters :) [15:20:11] more struts! [15:20:18] if the first idea fails [15:20:25] I tried [15:20:28] Helpmeland101: You should use parachutes, judging by your nick [15:20:37] not land on kerbin [15:20:39] on mun [15:20:43] Oh, heh [15:20:49] when I fly there I cant land this garbage [15:20:51] https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ibVXVZ7Ke-d4VTiNqDuKlq9xoMs8gp2p [15:20:55] there is the save [15:20:59] more crush zone [15:21:06] basically I'm on the orbit [15:21:15] and I fly to mun succesefully [15:21:27] but when I land number 1 I have no fuel [15:21:37] number 2 it fucking crashes [15:21:39] Helpmeland101: If you could send us an image of your craft as it is in orbit, that would be helpful [15:21:47] 1 second [15:21:49] And please don't use bad language [15:21:54] NP man [15:21:56] sorry [15:22:03] 1 second [15:22:08] I will get a screen shot [15:22:36] F1 saves a screenshot into the according folder in your install. :-) [15:22:38] make the orbit almost touch the surface around the point you want to land. when getting close cancel all horizontal velocity (use surface mode on the navball). then land absolutely verically keeping the velocity vertical and slowing down under 7 m/s before landing [15:22:43] the problem is [15:22:52] that I'm doing a saving mission [15:22:55] to the mun [15:22:59] to save my kerbal [15:23:04] who's stuck there [15:23:05] Ah, it's a pinpoint landing [15:23:11] yep [15:23:13] What's your orbit? [15:23:21] let me screenshot [15:23:26] Sure [15:23:30] I'm still loading [15:27:37] is it ok if its in different language [15:27:38] ? [15:27:41] https://imgur.com/a/KjMyv [15:27:44] there we go [15:27:51] I've go a shot of my ship [15:27:57] the crashed one [15:28:04] and the orbit I'm on [15:28:14] + view from the mun [15:28:29] You are in Kerbin orbit? [15:28:34] yes [15:28:42] I have a tank of fuel [15:28:51] That's a bit too little [15:28:56] when I try flying to mun [15:29:02] Are you familiar with the concept of delta-v? [15:29:07] Yes [15:29:16] but I don't know how to install mods [15:29:27] Oh, we can guide you through that [15:29:39] can u? that would be great! [15:29:56] I highly recommend you install and set up Kerbal Engineer Redux, as this provides useful readouts of all sorts [15:30:03] I wanted to install just the main mods that would be needed. [15:30:09] ok [15:30:13] can u sent me the link plz? [15:31:07] is that it? [15:31:07] https://kerbal.curseforge.com/projects/kerbal-engineer-redux [15:32:05] Uh, I am not sure if that works with KSP 1.4 [15:32:23] should I try find 1.3? [15:32:32] download* [15:33:03] This: https://github.com/jrbudda/KerbalEngineer/releases [15:33:17] Download the file packaged as .zip [15:33:24] yep [15:33:27] ok I did [15:33:48] If you open it, there should be a folder called Kerbal Engineer or so [15:33:49] i have some files in it [15:33:57] KerbalEngenier [15:34:07] is that it? [15:34:17] You only need that folder, copy it and paste it in your KSP/GameData/ [15:34:53] Then you only need to relaunch KSP and the mod should be there. :-) [15:35:34] so what should i do then? [15:35:49] Is it in your GameData folder now? [15:35:49] How do u check is the mod there? [15:35:53] yes [15:36:00] Launch KSP again [15:36:10] ok [15:36:37] i did [15:36:41] It is loaded when you start your game, and you should see a new icon in your toolbars [15:36:51] let me check [15:37:23] In the VAB, it should open a window which shows your vessel stats [15:37:45] In flight, the UI is a bit complicated to set up, but very customisable [15:38:09] My SENTINEL Infrared Telescope is missing after installing extraplanetary base building and applicable mods. can i get it back? [15:38:49] what is VAB? [15:38:50] Pretty sure that's some incompatibility. Try removing the new mods and launch KSP again [15:39:31] Thax [15:40:15] *Extraplanetary launch pads [15:41:02] so is 2,185 delta v enough? [15:41:04] Guest38949: Is it a vessel in flight, or a vessel saved in VAB? [15:41:09] to fly to mun? [15:41:33] that's the last s1 [15:41:38] stage* [15:41:51] Helpmeland: You need about 1000 m/s to go there (can be a bit less, but more than 900 m/s anyway), and 600 to land or take off to orbit [15:42:00] The IR scope isn't even a build option [15:42:01] Plus another 270 - 300 to go back to Kerbin [15:42:12] so is it enough [15:42:18] knowing I'm on the orbit now? [15:42:26] Guest38949: Pretty sure you removed some mod, then [15:43:01] Helpmeland: If you are in Kerbin orbit and have 2185 delta v, this is very close. You have no margin for error [15:43:05]