[00:03:40] https://i.gyazo.com/eb9d9bbb08d6ad154015a886d8d275cf.png - Stage footprint [00:31:06] https://i.gyazo.com/3525662bd458d783b394bdfaec2df655.png - I still need pyrotechnics. [00:57:58] I'm even making a band logo to import as a flag to put on the back. https://i.gyazo.com/eaca09bb1461c257666b24c0d3342ba6.png [02:40:28] How do I import flags into KSP? [02:41:43] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:46:53] Draconiator: I just take the file(s) and put them in a folder marked Flags and put them in game data [02:58:48] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:01:50] https://i.gyazo.com/013969a2179b8c0447c95f52f0bbe13a.png - Testing the pyros for my stage. I need to put more. [04:58:20] haha, no launch yesterday [04:58:39] but it will be around the same time again so i still cant watch it [06:06:35] Draconiator, I approve 100% of KSP being used for shenanigans, that's awesome [06:09:14] what else would you want to use it for? serious research? maybe etology or psychology, but then it is a tool, and the human playing is the experiment [06:11:39] shenanigans *non typical KSP stuff [06:14:01] em, can anyone tell me what's specific for KSP then? [09:12:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:16:10] Today's Wikipedia article or the day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Feynman [12:58:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/444483267526131712/20180511145019_1.jpg [12:58:29] wing broke, too much fast [13:07:55] hallo zusammen. spricht hier wer deutsch? [13:08:49] ich hätte eine kurze frage zur steuerung [13:17:20] Guest34968: Ja, aber die bevorzugte Sprache ist Egnlisch. [13:25:07] Fluburtur: today is definitely gonna be a museum day for me [13:25:29] isn't that the case every day? [13:25:46] Fluburtur: also I'm an idiot [13:25:58] That's not news anymore :P [13:26:11] Action: APlayer hides [13:26:32] Fluburtur: it took me like a year to realize that the PB4Y-2 was so heavily modified from the Liberator [13:26:43] like I didn't even notice the H tail [13:26:55] was missing [13:27:12] Guest34968: we make exceptions, but only if you're really unable to speak english/Wir machen Ausnahmen, aber nur, wenn du wirklich kein Englisch kannst [13:27:28] I speak american [13:27:37] that's about it [13:27:47] Out. Just out. :D [13:28:32] Mat2ch: His problem is already solved. ;-) [13:29:07] Ah, I guess she/he did query you without asking? ;P [13:29:12] He didn't know the key to switch Kerbals, so he had to select them by selectively entering and leaving vessels [13:29:18] They. Yes, they. [13:29:28] No, I queried them. [13:30:04] hehe :D [13:30:21] (You don't just query me without asking, though :P) [13:30:31] well, the default key is maybe not accessible on the German keyboard layout... [13:30:34] Action: APlayer waits for the incoming queries [13:30:53] The default does mismatch with the German keyboard layout, so it's understandable [13:30:57] there was a time where querying people without asking first was considered very impolite. Is this still the case? [13:31:02] dammit, this is KSPO, I can't make the joke I wanted [13:31:04] I had to spend some time researching the same thing too, back then [13:31:20] I just rebind many keys [13:31:42] Mat2ch: Well, if you have a good reason or good intentions, I guess that's acceptable. I am new to the internet though, so who knows? [13:31:55] I did, in fact, rebind keys, yes. [13:39:32] So, I guess English essays in ten years will look like "Is Pluto a planet? Discuss pros and cons." [13:53:58] answer: yes [13:54:18] it is also a dog [14:01:09] Fluburtur: I just saw the museum director but I was too nervous to say anything [14:02:16] why [14:05:10] Fluburtur: dudes a badass test pilot and I feel like I would feel out too much [14:06:06] eh [14:06:27] I hear if you fight a museum director and win you get to be the new director [14:09:28] http://www.tripwireinteractive.com/news/arvn-content-update-announced-for-rising-storm-2-vietnam.aspx [14:09:32] Fluburtur: oh, maybe I could fix all their crap mistakes [14:09:46] yeah [14:10:21] Fluburtur: they removed their storch [14:10:30] why [14:10:32] and i don't know where it is [14:10:34] I am anmoyed [14:10:35] annoyed [14:12:59] yeah I understand [14:13:03] poor storch [14:19:55] Fluburtur: http://aviadejavu.ru/Images6/AI/AI57-6/1-1.jpg [14:20:15] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [14:20:15] dang it [14:20:19] spotty connection [14:20:23] wat is dat [14:22:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:22:33] It's clearly a page from a book [14:29:11] Fluburtur: it's a B-36 most of a B-58 [14:29:21] carrying most* [14:29:28] lel [14:31:26] https://youtu.be/KG1QWqJMm6o [14:31:26] YouTube - Air Engine Throttle [14:37:13] Fluburtur: God the B-36 is big [14:37:16] too big [14:37:21] and yet not big enough [14:43:22] bwoop [14:43:47] bwoop [14:43:47] why isnt ozone used as oxidizer in rockets? [14:44:00] too corrosive? [14:44:13] probably easier to make oxygen [14:44:22] Yeah, O2 is more common [14:44:38] Also, it sounds like the twilight zone. [14:44:43] well i know its more common, but... O3 is far more reactive [14:44:57] You are entering a zone where the normal rules of combustion don't apply. The Ozone. [14:45:07] wheh [14:45:10] hehe [14:45:23] Fluburtur, how goes the RC? [14:45:28] good [14:45:31] lemme find a pic [14:45:35] ok [14:45:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380846093002473475/443738112292814848/DSC_8870.JPG [14:47:51] Fluburtur: found the director again, he's giving a tour to some army people who are here, probably for training [14:48:15] show him who's boss [14:48:16] nice [14:48:25] the prop, what will actually be used? [14:49:18] also, what are your thoughts of lighter props vs heavier? reduced energy use vs flywheel effect? [14:50:40] that's just a desk model [14:51:10] Fluburtur: contrarotating RC plane when [14:51:20] also prop weight, I guess it just changes the energy required to change the speed of the prop [14:51:34] Rokker soon" [14:52:16] I do need to make some 3d printed gearbox for that [14:52:38] but I need to find myself some of those ceramic bearings they use in fidget spinner, they are fairly cheap and not too bad [15:36:55] I should make a new plane for transit [15:40:26] Rokker https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/ft-what-did-you-do-rc-today-caution-offtopic-at-all-times.34729/page-19#lg=attachment107169&slide=0 [15:41:07] I should really start working on my vg33 [15:41:11] the rc one I mean [15:41:16] I can already make the wings [15:43:09] Fluburtur: what is this link [15:43:20] big rc b25 [15:52:51] https://www.reddit.com/r/KerbalSpaceProgram/comments/8inw3q/all_kerbals_were_harmed_in_the_making_of_this/ [15:55:50] https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/300x300/71739359/riiiight.jpg [15:57:45] nyc street artists can be pretty amaxing [15:58:10] nice to see paris shares the trait ^-^ [16:17:19] has anyone used something like dropbox or onedrive to sync saves between computers? [16:20:33] not ksp saves, but sure [16:21:41] Neal: yah, I do this with ksp + mega [16:37:28] Fluburtur: ah, that is a nice B-25 [16:37:41] big foamie one [16:37:56] can probably use internal combustion engines in there actually [16:38:01] at that size it would be better [16:54:25] the wings of it are a bit weird, the root is a modified e205 and the tips is rounded which will be a first for me [16:56:37] hurrr [16:57:07] you could use ethanol fuel, yar [16:57:19] with safflower oil for lube [16:58:20] heh [16:58:21] yeah, actually... [16:58:24] that would work [16:58:33] I have an old two stroke trimmer engine that I wanted to run on alcohol [16:58:46] but I need to fully disasemble it and clean it [16:59:04] I could put it in a vg33 but it would be a bit overpowered for that size of plane [16:59:12] and maybe too heavy [16:59:15] is 25cc I thikn [16:59:47] just make sure it's ethyl alcohol, plus the plant oil, you'll get a good smell and you may actually get a bit more power out of it [17:00:31] you'll need to clean/degrease the whole thing first, or you could get soot from residual petroleum products [17:02:44] another option is that you could adjust the timing to get a lean burn, which would help it stay cooler [17:04:01] if you did that, you would have to really pay attention to the fuel/oil mixture to ensure proper lubrication [17:04:14] shouldnt be too difficult, though [17:04:37] yeah should be fine [17:04:48] but yeah I need to do a complete check up of that engine first [17:04:54] had it for like 5 years at least [17:05:24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lDicKeoZcg [17:05:24] YouTube - The automotor [17:05:29] one time my dad forgot to check the mixture after having the engine tuned and it was belching smoke like a steam locomotive [17:05:51] too much oil [17:07:28] heh [17:07:32] and then, right before that push mower died, i literally had to use corn oil, olive oil, and rubbing alcohol in the tank, as it kept running really rough and idling shutdown... made a lot of fryer smelling smoke, but it ran smooth till the [17:07:55] crank shaft seized on the one end [17:08:12] that's one way to kill an engine [17:08:25] I guess if I remove all the crap on this small engine I can get it light enough [17:08:52] well the crankshaft was kind of already very abused from the blade striking rocks and tree roots, so it was only a matter of time [17:09:21] thing was like 20 years old [17:10:31] you ever look into using electric lawnmower motors for anything RC? [17:10:41] nah those are crap [17:10:55] brushed motors, no one wants that [17:10:55] not enough rpm? [17:11:11] I guess they could work for boats where weight doesn't matter [17:11:11] the one i have is actually brushless dc [17:11:18] good for you [17:11:21] :D [17:11:34] i think brushed dc is pretty standard [17:11:40] electric garden equipment is total crap like 99% of the time [17:12:19] yep, lot of companies want to make the bucks chashing in on the sustainability bandwagon, but what they end up putting out in the market is junk [17:13:06] once when I was working at a garage we had a brand new electric start lawnmower and the batteries were dead on arrival [17:14:11] pft, some companies just dont care [17:14:29] electric start is especially bad [17:14:55] and working in a garage that deals in the average consumer garden equipment is hell [17:15:15] because it looks like peoples do their best to totally destroy their stuff then want you to fix it for cheap [17:15:34] we have a greenworks mower, took it all apart and back together, it's very few parts, and the motor itself actually looks good, the windings, bushings, all the brackets etc look proper and heavier duty than needed, which put a smile on my face [17:15:36] mhm [17:16:14] garages for professional users are a bit better because more quality stuff [17:16:23] like kubota tractors or such [17:16:40] the little mowers are like super expensive but unkillable [17:17:39] there are one or two landscapers that i know of which use 100% electric equipment, but their stuff is mostly designed and built in-house [17:17:45] we really need a bigger deployable relay antenna in stock ksp =| [17:17:56] honda stuff is also fairly good quality [17:18:33] the other part of the company does machining and circuit design for PV/wind [17:18:46] fancy [17:20:44] indeed, they charge a 13% premium on their yard services, but they are way quieter and they can give you a free PV and micro wind assessment, which normally costs the company proving the panels/turbines money and time better spent on employees and products [17:20:50] k time to eat [17:20:52] brb [17:20:57] enjoy [17:29:47] hey guys [17:30:03] hi [17:31:15] anybody uses NFP? [17:31:44] building a canard based quad goliath thing [17:37:59] woah it works [17:38:13] i want to tuck the ventral engine up a bit more, though [17:38:24] very close to the ground [17:40:49] so the basic concept flies, just gotta make it into a finished craft [17:44:52] Fluburtur: https://i.imgur.com/vDscQZ8.jpg In this pic are 10 vehicles that broke mach 1, 5 broke mach 3, 2 broke mach 6, and one broke mach 32 [17:45:28] isn't humanity just incredible [17:45:43] what is the plane with the nose intake over the xb70 [17:45:48] https://i.imgur.com/0JrSAOQ.png [17:46:37] oh you mean the one where the intake is a duct over top the cockpit? [17:48:31] Fluburtur: the Bell X-5. A swing wing test bed [17:48:44] the TU-22 has engines above near the hstab [17:51:05] Fluburtur: 11 if you count the fact the wheels of the X-1 that are barely visible [17:52:39] english electric lightning? [17:53:08] transitbiker: ... do you have me ignored [17:53:35] cause I already answered him [17:53:44] this one? https://defenceoftherealm.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/english_electric_lightning_bac.jpg [17:53:56] Fluburtur: please inform hjm [17:54:02] cause this is gonna get old fast [17:54:05] transitbiker Rokker is upset [17:54:36] well, it's a free country or so they say [17:54:46] Fluburtur: he's trying to figure out a plane from a picture he can't see when I've given the answer [17:55:15] he's talking about that plane right now [17:55:21] but is that one the right one? [17:55:25] yes [17:55:34] it's silly [17:55:46] it's a neat craft [17:56:37] ... [17:57:10] perhaps you should un-ignore rokker [17:58:07] i need lunch [18:00:05] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptop' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:02:29] I'm just sad I'll never get to experience mach speeds... [18:02:57] ...but then, not a lot of people did [18:03:26] technically we are travelling many times the speed of sound through fixed space [18:04:07] The definition of 'mach' speeds is only valid in a fluid [18:04:13] earth rotation, axial wobble, orbit around sun, sun orbit around galactic centre, galaxy moving through space [18:04:37] if it all stopped, you'd be a fluid [18:04:40] hehe [18:04:51] cue relevant xkcd [18:05:40] https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/grumman-f7f-tigercat-scratch-build.53548/page-2#lg=attachment107185&slide=0 [18:06:07] I'm sort of jealous my Brother-in-law actually did [18:06:10] https://forum.flitetest.com/index.php?threads/grumman-f7f-tigercat-scratch-build.53548/page-2#lg=attachment107187&slide=0 [18:06:32] that damo guy is an actual tryhard whenit comes to making planes [18:08:00] He managed to get permission to fly 'passanger' during an airshow [18:08:11] nice [18:08:17] more then once [18:08:28] best I did was to sit on top of a rafale back in 2009 [18:10:02] i flew next to the prop in a q400 once, on purpose [18:10:09] was loud [18:10:52] i think the q400 could benefit from a beefier turbine driving the prop [18:11:16] and better fit/finish checks before customer delivery [18:12:20] (he was an official photograph) [18:12:46] photographer* [18:12:56] I used to commute to luxembourg from london city on various turboprops... got bumped to first a few times & realised it was worse than sitting at the back, sitting next to a prop is not good for the ears :p [18:13:00] i was an official passenger [18:13:24] yeah, it was an interesting experience [18:13:53] i wasnt going to miss out on my one time flying, so i booked those seats specifically [18:13:53] VanDisaster: I did that from Montreal to Sept-Iles. Turbosprops are not fun [18:14:28] flying up the Thames estuary on a turboprop is a bit of an odd & amusing experience, kinda like you're in 1940 suddenly :p [18:14:38] and then landing at LCR is terrifying [18:14:42] the flight itself was fine, pretty smooth, was really cool to see the gear and the prop doing their thing [18:14:46] but the rest I can do without [18:15:15] i had a photo somewhere of the view, dunno where it went [18:15:22] might be able to find it, hold on [18:16:13] LCY even [18:16:26] always thikn you're going to end up in the dock [18:16:59] sounds like laguardia or jfk [18:17:13] LCY is literally built in a dock [18:17:18] without filling the dock in [18:17:26] just the runway [18:17:46] heh [18:18:23] plenty of YT vids of arrival, it's an interesting place [18:18:30] reallysteep approach [18:20:54] VanDisaster: reminds me of Haneda Airport [18:21:59] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TgLIsyWFdeY [18:21:59] YouTube - Dash8 Q400 Panoramic approach over London city - EGLC / LCY cockpit [18:22:22] altho thats the less watery end I think [18:23:39] well, this thing can get into the air with one engine operable [18:23:49] i'd call this a success [18:24:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Distractedman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:28:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o UmbralRaptor' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:28:43] VanDisaster: I'm actually suprised that they use Q400. I would imagine that since Europe is a lot more dense, bigger planes would make more economic sense [18:30:33] london city airport has had restrictions put on size of aircraft that can use it [18:31:07] also [18:31:11] Last time I took such a plane, was to go to a 'city' where the airport was actually bigger then the city itself... of city of barely more then 25k popualtion [18:32:02] regional jets and turboprops are more practical and flexible for smaller airports for both the runway length and the terminal size itself [18:32:49] I was only talking about the economics of such a plane. If it is profitable, then I guess it's worth running it [18:33:38] some airports are not located where you think they'd be, larger facility in a smaller town may make sense if the craft will take on cargo and/or fuel and exchange passengers [18:34:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehN6u_A8KOE [18:34:58] YouTube - Flat Earth Pilots - here is my cockpit... Now show me yours. [18:35:20] feels kind of nostalgic to me [18:35:28] the fms screens [18:35:33] that font [18:35:34] or maybe there is a strategic benefit such as location near production or maintinence facility [18:35:37] all too familiar [18:36:18] transitbiker: Sept-iles is a Hub for a lot of remote locations [18:36:29] namely Labrador [18:36:39] there you go [18:37:39] but it's 200km away from almost everything [18:39:42] https://goo.gl/maps/KmhYSzsUf9S2 [18:44:22] Note that it's cheaper for me to go to Miami then go to that regional airport... even if it is a Hub [18:46:12] ve2dmn: maybe you will get lucky and Boom will succeed [18:46:18] supersonic travel yay [18:49:52] Jesus christ [18:50:00] there is a huge breeze through the museum [18:54:19] https://78.media.tumblr.com/2b26eae40e217bde087b64ce87c8d97a/tumblr_inline_p1bmea52aj1r74g00_540.gif [19:03:12] Theoretically would a rocket spaceport be larger or smaller than a normal airport [19:04:07] I was thinking smaller but then I remembered the noise problem [19:04:49] how much standoff distance did the saturn V need [19:05:11] oren: define 'normal' [19:07:15] ve2dmn: one that can handle intercontinental flights [19:08:00] which is the niche in which I can see supersonic and rocket travel competing [19:10:45] i think there are too many open questions to answer that [19:11:17] well the shuttle keep-out zone is a radius of 3 miles [19:11:59] like, how does boarding a rocket work? [19:12:08] are they boarding at the launchpad? [19:12:28] yeah probbly [19:12:28] how many launchpads do you need to prepare and start a rocket every few minutes? [19:13:19] (as we are comparing with busy airports, let's say Frankfurt, Heathrow, Charles de Gaulle) [19:13:50] (we'd be expecting a similar number of flights) [19:14:02] https://i.imgur.com/EGBkpmz.jpg who wants to guess what this is [19:14:11] the boosters would be RTLS as in the Earth to earth animation [19:14:28] therefore it depends how fast you can refuel a booster [19:14:58] anyone [19:15:24] Rokker: some sort of hatch cover? [19:16:57] what is the total diameter of the pipes going into a booster and what is the viscosity and density of the fueks [19:17:10] https://i.imgur.com/L8sYLmO.jpg [19:18:14] Rokker: so what is it [19:18:37] It isn;t a htch it's too small for the guys to get out of it [19:18:46] hmmm [19:18:53] oren: SM to CM umbilical [19:19:14] i think an earth-to-earth-rocket port would have a regular airport nearby anyway, to collect shorter distance flights for connecting purposes [19:20:03] .nextlaunch [19:20:24] oren: wrong channel [19:20:30] oren: less than an hour now [19:20:50] and at that point, you're probably looking to extending existing airports with a few rocket launchpads [19:21:05] so the question of "what is bigger" becomes moot [19:22:03] on that note, what exactly is "moot" anyway? [19:23:49] Jesus Christ, I never looked at the "leading edge" of the Apollo 15 bottom before [19:24:09] https://i.imgur.com/4nTd0p3.jpg [19:24:14] https://i.gyazo.com/7e31e79c84d9b12214cff5ef994ee29d.jpg [19:24:14] look at it [19:24:27] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [19:24:27] it's all gone [19:25:20] ve2dmn: shorthaul is in competition wth trains here [19:25:31] it's a really tight market [19:26:49] We have no shorthaul. Only vast empty space [19:26:57] trains doing city centre-city centre at 320kph is not really slower than a plane after you include messing at the airport [19:28:01] why is nobody looking at it :( [19:29:12] ve2dmn: you do have trains tho, I've been on canadian trains :p [19:29:26] Eddi|zuHause: "moot" is the admin of 4chan [19:29:49] middle-of-nowhere-canada to montreal & back iirc [19:29:57] VanDisaster: not the same market [19:30:17] VanDisaster: we have really really crappy trains in canada [19:30:54] canada is basically a third world country in terms of tech infrastucture [19:31:14] oren: I've taken Amtrak. Several times. it's not that crappy. Only really crappy [19:31:26] even euro/asian high speed rail wouldn't beat a plane over there, thats probably why [19:31:37] ^ [19:32:08] Market Incentives are just not there [19:32:22] although, I would LOVE overnight trains [19:32:35] plus you have like half the population of the UK or France [19:33:09] VanDisaster: 60% of that population is in the Quebec-Windsor corridor [19:33:45] less than the pop of california, apparently [19:33:54] yup [19:35:11] but say london to paris... train is 3 hrs & the stations are central [19:35:25] VanDisaster: https://brilliantmaps.com/half-canada/ [19:35:38] plane is something less than an hour iirc but you're gonna spend forever going to & from the airports & doing checkin [19:35:59] ve2dmn: and the other half hates us [19:36:44] oren: which half are you in? [19:37:37] the south [19:37:45] Toronto [19:37:54] VanDisaster: Compare my trip to NYC: 10h by train for 70CDN or 90min by plane for (180CDN). [19:38:01] currently at yonge and bay [19:38:11] er bloor and bay [19:38:25] whatever [19:38:33] oren: I'm sorry [19:38:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:42:13] ;wa distance Montreal to New York [19:42:17] Eddi|zuHause: distance->from->Montreal, Quebec, Canada, to->New York City, New York: 540.3 km (kilometers) [19:42:43] ;wa distance Berlin to Munich [19:42:45] Eddi|zuHause: distance->from->Berlin, Germany, to->Munich, Bavaria, Germany: 503.7 km (kilometers) [19:43:05] oren: http://metrocosm.com/canada-population-map/ [19:43:15] Kerbal cockpits are too clean and organizef [19:43:18] they just opened a new track here that cut down train times from berlin to munich from 6h to 4h [19:44:00] https://i.imgur.com/2GdgJnA.jpg [19:44:23] T-30min https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk [19:44:24] YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission [19:45:01] Eddi|zuHause: how many stops between the 2 ? [19:45:18] for the really fast ones? about 4 or so [19:46:27] Between Montreal and NYC there are about 12 or 15 stops, but besides Albany, most towns are stops are below 100k population [19:47:05] https://www.bahn.de/p/view/service/zug/fahrzeuge/ice_sprinter.shtml <-- looks like 3 inbetween stops [19:47:16] one of the 'BIG STOP' on that line is Plattsburgh,NY with a population of 20k [19:47:29] there are other "still fast" ones with more [19:47:34] There is no way a high-speed train would be profitable :( [19:49:40] They even got rid of the Montreal-Boston Train a few years ago [19:52:33] https://www.bahn.de/p/view/service/zug/fahrzeuge/vde8.shtml <-- this is a more complete overview over the long-distance trains over that new track [19:52:56] ah, bahn.de, it has been a while since i last needed to use it :) [19:53:14] see you go through a major city centers. IT's worth it [19:53:54] depends on what you call "major" :p [19:54:15] major tom :) [19:54:44] great. now i have a song stuck in my head :p [19:54:46] Eddi|zuHause: population >250k ? [19:55:12] ve2dmn: ok, that would cover about half of the towns on that image [19:55:54] ;wa population of Bamberg [19:55:56] Eddi|zuHause: Bamberg, Bavaria, Germany->city population: 69574 people (country rank: ~~124th) (2007 estimate) [19:56:10] ;wa population of Eisenach [19:56:12] Eddi|zuHause: Eisenach, Thuringia, Germany->city population: 41884 people (country rank: ~~254th) (2014 estimate) [19:56:13] what is bam? [19:56:27] Althego: you wanna discuss etymology of place names? [19:56:35] hehe not really [19:56:36] Eddi|zuHause: you can't find a city center on this line with a population of 100k... https://www.amtrak.com/adirondack-train [19:56:46] (aside from source and destination of course) [19:56:54] ;wa population of Fulda [19:56:56] Eddi|zuHause: Fulda, Hesse, Germany->city population: 65540 people (country rank: ~~132nd) (2014 estimate) [19:57:02] ;wa population of Erfurt [19:57:04] Eddi|zuHause: Erfurt, Thuringia, Germany->city population: 210118 people (country rank: 37th) (2015 estimate) [19:57:20] see, even this "state capital" thingie doesn't match your criterium [19:57:32] criterion? [19:58:20] whatever [19:58:52] :P [19:58:59] ;wa population of Halle (Saale) [19:59:01] Eddi|zuHause: Halle, Saxony-Anhalt, Germany->city population: 235720 people (country rank: 31st) (2007 estimate) [19:59:20] Anyway, my remark was that it makes enconomic sense to develop more lines [19:59:21] ;wa population of stolberg rheinland [19:59:23] Althego: Stolberg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany->city population -> Rhineland-Palatinate, Germany->population: Stolberg, North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany->58540 people (country rank: ~~151st) (2007 -- this crap is too long. [19:59:36] hehe [19:59:46] really, after the biggest towns of Berlin, Munich and Frankfurt population drops really quick.... [19:59:51] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk [19:59:52] YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission [19:59:58] nah, watch it for me [20:00:03] i need to sleep [20:00:07] while, Amtrack 69 has barely enough traffic to run once per day [20:00:17] ;wa population of Leipzig [20:00:19] Eddi|zuHause: Leipzig, Saxony, Germany->city population: 506578 people (country rank: 13th) (2007 estimate) [20:00:22] ... and it has to yeild to cargo trains [20:00:24] ;wa population of Dresden [20:00:26] Eddi|zuHause: Dresden, Saxony, Germany->city population: 523058 people (country rank: 12th) (2010 estimate) [20:00:35] dresden files :) [20:00:46] i watched that series [20:01:01] pales in comparison to the books [20:01:08] probably [20:01:13] but i don't really read books [20:01:17] Live! [20:01:25] still alive? [20:01:36] this was a triumph? [20:01:38] T-12min [20:01:47] what [20:01:52] cant be [20:01:58] isnt it around midnighT?Úú [20:02:14] http://nextrocket.space/ [20:03:17] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk [20:03:18] YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission [20:04:32] What, T-10:00? [20:04:38] I thought it was in like 2 hourse [20:04:38] yes [20:04:41] hours* [20:04:48] 2 horses? [20:04:48] Hehe, hourse [20:04:49] yes me too [20:04:57] maybe they moved it forward during the day [20:05:06] 2 houses? luckey you [20:08:41] is that the guy again with the face during the falcon heavy launch? [20:08:46] T-5m woooo [20:09:29] the face? [20:10:01] when he heard in his earpiece that the core crashed [20:11:15] why is this decreasing chamber pressure good? [20:11:22] eats less fuel? [20:12:04] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQEqKZ7CJlk [20:12:04] YouTube - Bangabandhu Satellite-1 Mission [20:12:19] my view during this launch https://i.imgur.com/cjUa8ei.jpg [20:12:29] hehe [20:12:30] I'm watching a f9 launch next to Apollo 15 [20:12:48] cool or too cool for school? [20:12:55] 100% [20:13:09] 1 m [20:13:58] 10s [20:13:58] 156k watching, not bad for a company not in news or media [20:14:38] yeah [20:14:54] they have 1.7 million subs too [20:14:56] Gotta love how everyone is clapping before the rocket even cleared the launch tower [20:15:07] they just do cool stuff :) [20:15:30] there was some point there [20:15:36] the narration mentioned something [20:15:48] MaxQ [20:16:15] hah [20:16:26] sponsored by nVidea [20:16:27] i missed these onboard views on the insight [20:16:35] hehe [20:17:20] uh round earth, so fake [20:17:31] fisheye lens :) [20:17:53] will they catch the fairings? [20:17:53] which it is, but of course the line going through the center is undistorted, so earth is curved [20:18:56] Althego: FAKE NEWS!!! [20:19:43] what keeps that shiny foil puffy? [20:19:52] on only one side? [20:20:06] anyway, on the origin of "Bamberg", the name apparently goes back to a "Castle Babenberg" which was there around 900, owned by the Babenberg-Family [20:20:10] never saw those vibration when fireing the cold gas thrusters [20:20:27] it is reentry [20:20:37] or on the second stage? [20:20:43] on the first [20:20:57] i mean never saw it so intensly on other launches [20:21:11] maybe different camera mounting? [20:21:37] hehe as usual [20:21:40] no image for landing [20:21:44] never ever [20:21:47] THE CAMERA [20:21:53] dont tell me it is a coincidence every time [20:22:01] RIP camera [20:22:05] every time [20:22:09] It's a conspiracy [20:22:39] I just want a good drone ship landing video [20:22:42] lol [20:22:46] magic [20:22:47] magic trick [20:22:50] They staged it [20:22:54] elon, the illusionist [20:22:56] It was already there and the other one crashed behind it. [20:23:03] doesnt make a rocket disappear, makes it appear [20:23:07] Okay, this is the first time that was actually appropriate for clapping [20:23:09] Blaank: of course, they staged it. that's how a rocket is launched [20:23:10] like bunny from hat [20:24:15] or bird [20:31:09] http://www.gstatic.com/b-g/5717BWTLRKCBB8JUDQ1QUA6HMC26WL238301173.mp3 google duplex thingy calling a restaurant, Turing would be blown away [20:34:47] i can imagin that google assistants calling other google assistants make buissness :) [20:41:40] Fluburtur: isn't this beau-tiful https://i.imgur.com/NyCMOb9.jpg [20:41:50] Tank2333: They'll develop thier own language. [20:41:58] newspeak [20:42:05] is that a mosquitto? [20:42:21] or beaufighter maybe [20:42:21] Fluburtur: ... [20:42:26] Rokker werent those made out of wood? [20:42:27] beau-tiful [20:42:46] Tank2333: mosquitos were, beaufighters were not [20:42:55] ah okay [20:43:57] Tank2333 it sure must have taken some real komet-ment to fly one of these https://i.imgur.com/x7mvGIU.jpg [20:44:39] Komet Sighted! -1 Stability [20:44:46] ay [20:45:02] If only we had more comet sense... [20:46:01] Tank2333: being a pilot knowing you are going up against one of these, but that must have been tough to swallow https://i.imgur.com/bwqXkRh.jpg [20:46:24] ell the mk108 are horrible [20:46:42] shush I'm making crappy puns [20:46:47] they are mostly a danger to bombers [20:47:16] shhhh [20:48:53] I rate pun/10 [20:50:03] With a satellite with the name of "Bangabanga", I'd think there's two people who are very much in love aboard. [20:51:25] Draconiator: you should see the nicknames we are making in #spacex [20:51:36] teasing the only Bangladeshi in there [20:52:46] well at least it seemed like the launch was... bang on [20:54:01] Fluburtur: make a wish https://i.imgur.com/ye20SQB.jpg [20:54:10] lel [20:54:22] what is up with that blur [20:56:14] Tank2333: museum is closing, I'm rushing [20:56:23] There is no airplane here, it's only an optical ilyushin https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/IL-2_%2836318432892%29.jpg [20:56:31] (gotta get in on these juicy puns) [20:57:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [21:00:48] ok [21:01:07] IL2 for the win [21:04:26] https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/66705cb9-f15d-3748-9fe4-bbae174ccf52/ss_this-is-the-bizarre-tale-of.html [21:04:47] lol, lasers. LASERS are the bane of all flat earth theories. [21:11:29] I CAN'T SEE CURVATURE DOWN HERE SO IT MUST BE FLAT UP THERE TOOHHYUKHYUK OH AND I MARRIED MY SISTER MWEEEHEEHEE [21:29:28] Draconiator odd story, but the article is way to long [21:42:58] what exactly is a "First annual " anyway? [21:45:16] a very odd turn of phrase [21:45:18] that's what [21:47:02] well, statistically, the majority of "first annual "s will never see a second iteration [21:47:48] which would then invalidate the "annual" bit [21:48:24] ah well, people seem to use it anyway [21:56:13] "He named it 'My first annual funeral' as a joke. He was never very funny." [21:58:40] "He did collect the letter T from the newspaper headline every sunday which had it." [22:01:57] that funeral joke is funny though [22:07:16] [citation needed] [22:08:35] you have to start somewhere [22:14:37] "You have to start somewhere." is a horrible way to start the final few paragraphs of an epitaph. [22:24:20] Hey guys [22:25:46] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:26:03] Evening, Gentlemen. [22:28:06] I calculated the surface gravity of Cygnus X-1 [22:33:24] what is it? [22:33:34] and what do you mean surface? [22:33:41] Around 104 bllion Gs [22:33:55] i guess that's enough Gs [22:35:04] True [22:35:28] Well my calculator can go up to 20 digits [22:35:51] So its exactly 103,888,010,621.38977 Gs [22:36:14] Or 1,020,381,731,363.219 m/s² [22:38:08] how are you determining what the surface is? are you just setting some radius to 0 in a formula? [22:39:02] I presume a simple GMm/r² but with r being the radius of Cygnus itself. [22:39:06] I set it to 43 km/43000 m [22:39:18] cancel out small m for acceleration [22:39:25] the radius being 0? [22:40:57] The radius being 43 km. [22:41:10] why is the radius of a black hole 43 km? [22:41:18] How do i do it? I got a absurd 45.9 quadrillion m/s² [22:42:54] or exactly 4,684,915,871,633,854.5308422061489125 Gs [22:47:43] do you get a different surface gravity for other black holes? [22:48:31] Maybe [22:51:09] Gee whiz [22:51:16] Gs Louise [22:52:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:07:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [23:21:32] Fluburtur: so you excited about the new 2020 rover payload news that just came out? [23:21:42] what news [23:23:17] Fluburtur: NASA has confirmed they are sending a tiny helicopter to mars [23:23:25] nice [23:23:32] RC Mars chooper [23:23:34] chopper [23:23:35] yay [23:24:08] you serious? [23:24:34] Nice if true [23:25:10] BenjaminK: yes [23:25:37] its basically a chopper on top of a cubesat that is gonna be landed on mars with teh rover [23:32:01] Must need a big rotor for the martian atmosphere. [23:32:06] Hype [23:32:46] im not sure either a heli is the best choice but maybe they have some inflatable rotor or something cool like that [23:32:51] Supernovy: nah, not that big [23:32:57] Fluburtur: nope [23:33:02] almost looks plastic [23:33:12] fiber? [23:33:24] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOMQOqKRWjU [23:33:25] YouTube - NASA Mars Helicopter Technology Demonstration [23:33:26] my heli blades are fiberglass [23:33:30] contrarotating at least [23:34:51] that's some beefy blades [23:35:24] Fluburtur: i kinda expected longer but fatter probably makes more sense [23:35:40] more lifting area for lower moment of inertia and all that [23:35:50] gotta be able to fit those somewhere [23:36:01] yeah longer blades are always more efficient [23:36:08] Fluburtur: its a rover the size of the SUV [23:36:15] theres room [23:38:10] you know the rotor diameter of thise thing? [23:38:33] nope [23:38:36] no [23:39:10] Fluburtur: found it, jesus [23:39:27] Fluburtur: cube is larger than i thought [23:39:37] 1.1 m rotor diameter [23:39:46] oh yeah that's fairly beefy [23:39:50] omg [23:39:53] huge [23:40:02] still not the largest rc helicopter [23:40:19] Fluburtur: largest interplanetary RC helicopter [23:40:36] I dont think there were many helicopters in space [23:40:43] Fluburtur: besids, the largest RC helicopter would be a drone heli [23:41:03] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NASA_Mars_Helicopter_Scout [23:43:09] NASA officials announced on 11 May 2018 that the helicopter was approved to fly on the Mars 2020 mission. [23:43:14] HYYYYYPPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEE [23:43:42] also, look at that difference in airfoils [23:43:44] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/186186471202357249/444645750006087701/DSC_8889.JPG [23:44:14] have yall seen the Insight launch footage ULA released yesterday [23:44:48] Fluburtur: pretty sure thats aluminum foil not air foil [23:45:24] air foil would be even lighter than aluminium foil. [23:45:35] that's the templates to cut the foam wings [23:46:14] seriously tho guys [23:46:21] have u seen the new InSight footage [23:46:44] I have not. [23:47:49] Supernovy: this is some great great launch footage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02mEFLOsMHM [23:47:50] YouTube - Atlas V InSight Rocket Cam [23:47:55] starts off a bit crap