[00:00:24] Hey all. [00:14:06] \o [00:14:34] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:11:47] https://gyazo.com/08b38a6aa7ac505487cb7bc24818e602 - In one of my evolution simulators I got something to actually roll as a locomotion solution. [02:25:09] considering the Latin root of "evolution" is "rolling out" I guess that's spot on [02:25:57] Autobots, transform and evolve! [03:12:30] ...Which is weird because the last time I tried this shape, it hopped. [03:33:59] https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=1HU-009U-00003 - I found my power supply heh [07:11:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v erio' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:27:12] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:52:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [12:43:03] https://twitter.com/cosmos4u/status/1039786950327193601 [12:43:03] The descent of @haya2e_jaxa has been aborted at 600 (instead of 30) meters altitude because the laser altimeter did& https://t.co/EqW0pUa6iT [13:08:36] bad luck [13:09:15] yeah. But also somewhat amusing. [13:33:22] ^exit [13:38:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [14:21:00] Imminent orion parachute drop test: https://www.space.com/17933-nasa-television-webcasts-live-space-tv.html [14:22:09] Imminent Orion sounds like a military operation [14:25:10] I guess it involves the military [15:21:57] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:38:58] Did I miss the parachute test? [15:41:58] yes? [15:42:10] Doh [15:43:22] what? [15:43:24] spacex? [15:43:30] Orian [15:43:33] Orion [15:48:34] what, scott's son is now a paratrooper? :) [15:58:16] That took me far too long to get [15:59:07] after something like 14 years... isp gave me a router [15:59:21] but because they never did that before of course i have my own [15:59:26] WOOOOOO https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/254984631512858634/489465028743921664/DSC_9661.JPG [15:59:32] Fluburtur, https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/166447-the-moderation-nation-space-program/&do=findComment&comment=3449892 [15:59:49] so i had to configure theirs so i could avoid reconfiguring mine [16:00:04] LOL Althego [16:00:23] well, probably not perfect [16:00:30] home server is unreachable [16:00:36] dont tell me i need to set up tunnel twice [16:00:46] probably [16:00:54] very nice Deddly boi [16:01:00] but now i am on almost 300 megabit [16:01:34] which is bad... bcause currently it gives it a dynamic ip [16:01:54] What was that a pic of, Fluburtur (that you posted above) [16:01:59] ? [16:02:06] new fpv goggles [16:02:11] Ah, cool [16:04:12] heh it rebooted, just because [17:06:13] Rebooted again, Althego? [17:11:23] no i was trying to modify the settings [17:11:32] now two routers are chained [17:11:36] extremely stupid [17:11:51] i know why they did this, most people dont want to maintain a separate router [17:12:19] but no provider ever gave me a router [17:12:26] or at least a router that was configurable [17:12:35] so i always had my own [17:12:57] there was no option to get a stupider device [17:13:12] basically what i needed was an optical to ethernet media converter [17:13:27] and i got a spaceship isntead [17:18:35] had to move the dyndns to the outside router and add a bunch of port forwarding there too [17:18:51] but couldnt change the ip of the other router, so it remained 66 [17:19:57] not to mentioned gls lost the package yesterday, so i had to phone a lot to get it [17:20:20] at least i got almost 300 Mb now [17:20:26] speaking of package, I should get the parts for my computer tomorrow [17:26:34] Althego, I'm glad you're doing that, not me [17:27:44] n+1 attemtp, people told me about pppoe passthrough [17:47:23] and it works, just needed a reboot on the internel router because of reasons [18:08:29] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Deddly' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:51:46] Guys [18:52:02] I finally found out why my planes roll. The answer is autostruts. [18:53:01] And apparently it's an old and known bug but I just never came across it [18:53:10] Documentation of it, rather [18:55:02] Hi b_Eagle [18:55:08] Aha [18:55:30] I missed it when you were talking about the issue. But I'm glad you found it. Is there a workaround? [18:56:31] Yeah, turn autostruts off and don't attach wings like I do: at the very tip of things and definitely not to each other if the root wing part is not attached to the central hull [18:57:14] Interesting [18:57:25] I asked about this months ago and was actually the reason why I stopped playing KSP for a while. Thought I did something wrong or my PC with years of junk wasn't just getting floating points right [18:57:56] Well it's great you found the solution, then :) [18:58:19] It seems that the autostruts don't somehow attach symmetrically and that results in light deflections, which in turn makes the entire plane asymmetrical [18:58:53] I'm just super excited! Had to tell someone and since my friends don't play KSP...IRC it is [18:58:55] Aha! Very good to know. Is this especially for wings? [18:59:48] I need to do some extensive testing but I think it would affect all parts: the greater the aero effect of a part the greater the roll. [19:01:03] Small planes with few wings have it worst, larger planes somehow don't suffer as much. Presuming SAS keeps track of things better and/or gimbal on engine cancels it or smth [19:02:15] Maddening when I thought NOT using autostrut was deflecting something so I kept autostrutting more and more parts never realizing it actually probably got worse [19:03:22] https://forum.kerbalspaceprogram.com/index.php?/topic/155114-aerodynamic-effects-of-autostruts/ [19:04:35] I know the post is old but it matches my problems over the last year or so so well that it must be the same bug [19:05:37] And I definitely have a tendency to indeed slap my wings to tanks/engines/tail parts on the sides [19:06:58] Ooo lightining and thunder! I thought the storm went away, at least they promised it would. And it was sunny and warm earlier today...no wonder I had a headache. [19:35:25] Thanks for the link, b_Eagle [19:36:52] I have had that exact issue on all of my designs [19:38:02] ...which is interesting, because I don't normally autostrut wings unless it's a very large craft. [19:38:42] But what I DO often do is attach wheels to the wings. And wheels always have autostrut enabled [19:48:58] So I'm upgrading my video card. I have enough space (barely) but I didn't take into account these plugs. My current card is on the right. https://i.gyazo.com/d4c78d429c0a289d7f9c7b7a068a323c.jpg - will I have to do something to get it to fit? [19:53:32] You mean those plugs are in the way physically? [19:53:43] The yellow ones? [19:54:11] First things first, please clean the dust out of there ;) [19:54:46] I [19:54:57] Bye then... [20:04:01] ... [20:08:47] that's his GPU frying up [20:12:06] Well dang [20:12:40] Either that or the vacuum cleaner caused a static shock that fried the motherboard [20:14:56] probably just work'n ont hings [20:18:08] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [20:19:09] Evening, Gentlemen. [20:21:12] I have an older 210 that is the same length....and the heatsing on the new one is bezeled a bit, so I THINK it'll fit if I bend the wires out of the way. [20:25:23] Draconiator, looks like you should be able to get an L connector or something [20:26:13] Or just a shave down the plastic somewhat, depending on how close it is... [20:35:58] Woo! [20:44:35] https://i.gyazo.com/2798175c0846eb50bc8796bbb7406a14.png - Here's the same area on the card in question. I MAY be able to cut out a little notch, depending on wether it is plastic or not. [20:48:44] I put a fpv system on the vg-33 [20:48:57] will try to get some aerial formation flying video [20:54:34] Deddly yeah! I'd call this situation "aaaargh". [20:54:41] Gotta reboot [21:10:32] livestream, survival minecraft https://gaming.youtube.com/channel/UCZuDQkMA5GF3Jh29ElK3-uQ/live [21:13:03] got me wondering if I should livestream my ksp... I've not gotten into gaming/youtube yet... [21:25:31] I livestreamed KSP one time. Got like 12 viewers, which was cool. [21:53:52] https://youtu.be/vIrX81SVwnQ [21:53:52] YouTube - What's in the box? [21:59:39] a rocket engine [22:00:12] another box.. [22:01:54] a kuiper belt object. [22:03:45] an automatic piano [22:09:26] .... wasted space... [22:11:47] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+v eriophora' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [22:19:35] ahaha, wow, the original one \o/ [23:19:34] So the plugs I posted about, they run to my bront USB panel. phew, glad it's not an essential piece of hardware... [23:19:41] *frunt [23:20:13] I can replace them with a rear PCIe1x USB hub anyway so... [23:30:42] PHEW....I'll have to remove the front panel but that's not critical. [23:31:12] AND I can use the rear USB port anyway.