[00:15:21] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [00:15:21] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [00:53:29] Action: darsie cancels the asteroid mission. [01:10:25] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:21:49] Hi everyone [01:22:06] X-15, welcome [01:22:09] hello fast piloted missile with tiny wings [01:22:59] uh [01:34:56] Must have been flight 3-65-97. [02:42:26] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:49:54] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [03:49:54] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: To better serve a wider range of Kerbal Space Program players, the following dialogue is also available in Pokemon closed captioning. [03:50:16] Weeeeee! http://spacenews.com/blue-origin-flies-next-generation-new-shepard-vehicle/ [03:53:36] The capsule also seems to have about the most gentle parachute landing of anything. [03:55:50] Apparently they use srbs to soften the landing [03:56:41] Action: Scolar_Visari notes the capsule landed at about ~.447 m/s. [03:57:49] Action: UmbralRaptor missed the decimal point initially. [03:58:10] it's an ablative capsule, Raptor. [04:01:15] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders making fatter first stages and the difficulties of making oddly shaped propellant tanks ala Venture Star. [04:01:52] Aluminum-Lithium alloys are highly likely to work, [04:02:17] See, weird! https://i.stack.imgur.com/JtCK1.jpg [04:02:48] someone please put some more landmass on Laythe [04:04:25] Turns out that propellant tanks are hard. [04:07:03] More than a 100 years, and the Maine still looks ugly. [04:08:35] According to this depiction, the Maine was struck by a torpedo at one point https://mtviewmirror.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/IMG_2093.jpg [04:12:01] And a giant cutaway model of a Yamato-class battleships turret, complete with gigantic stereoscopic rangefinders http://i.imgur.com/FqN57Sz.jpg [04:12:26] Treadless Tiger tank not included, some assembly required. [04:23:51] Action: Scolar_Visari ponders playing as Ptolemaic Egypt or Syracuse. [04:29:10] The latter is an underdog, but the former has animal headed deities. [04:33:20] Action: Scolar_Visari goes off to create a jellyfish head patron god of poison. [06:17:11] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:56:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Dman979' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [07:10:52] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:32:49] Last message repeated 2 time(s). [08:32:49] ya know the weirdest thing about japan is how nice the jehowah's whitnesses are [08:34:12] ...spelling fail much [08:46:55] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [08:47:17] but they are nice other places too? missionaries in general really [08:47:31] whats special about them in japan [08:51:28] you know why? because they dont care about them :) [09:01:14] I try to have none things to do with people who recruit for their religion. [09:05:59] Why is this even a topic of discussion in this channel [09:06:04] Thats what I wanna know [09:08:19] Action: ConductingCat would rather recruit kerbals for a space programme. [09:08:28] hey, has anybody here built sstos that work with scaled-up ksp? [09:08:37] or even non-single stage spaceplanes really [09:08:56] I'm trying to figure out what engines I ought to use, whether rapiers are good enough or whether I ought to try and do whiplash + nerv or something [09:20:11] "Hello would you like to apply for exciting new opportunities as a solo explorer at a distant planet for an indefinite ammount of time? [09:20:14] " [09:21:04] haha [09:23:08] "Please apply in-person with a full blood panel to "That's not burning flesh LLC"" [09:25:28] "Our company is non-profit! (Even though we're really trying!)" [09:30:27] KrazyKrl, lol [09:45:59] tawny: SSTO planes in RSS or other scaled up versions of KSP are pretty hard [09:46:11] Ive yet to see anyone actually do one in RO [09:46:20] That wasnt just a ridiculous mess [09:46:20] mhm, that's not too surprising [09:46:53] I'm working with 6.4x scale right now, and (trying to) use smurff to adjust things to be more manageable [09:47:13] mostly the problem seems to be that I'm not used to thinking about it correctly? [09:49:00] I'm having to convince myself that turbofan engines aren't something I should try to use on it haha [09:50:46] Usually by the time I make an SSTO I realize that I could have just done a reusable rocket more easily [09:50:57] Or a dream chaser like design [09:51:15] haha [09:52:26] honestly I'm only really doing it for the challenge [09:52:51] and also because spaceplanes are cool in theory and I'm sad that real life makes them not good at things [10:05:33] Dont let Skylon fanboys catch you saying that [10:06:44] in ksp, at least, they seem to have a pretty nice payload fraction to LEO [10:06:47] or LKO I guess [10:21:24] Action: Mat2ch throws a precooler at TheKosmonaut [14:10:22] so, disney and fox [14:29:42] eh? [14:37:25] minecraft livestream this morning followed by KSP after lunch [14:37:44] https://youtu.be/DKtVpvzUF1Y?t=124 liftoff is 10:00 eastern time US [14:37:45] YouTube - Apollo 11 Saturn V Launch Camera E-8 [14:38:22] yo transit [14:46:23] bwoop [14:47:27] mm.. morn'n... [14:55:44] minecraft live! (ksp later) https://gaming.youtube.com/user/ibook133/live [15:11:53] OK, I'm officially starting to get bored with No Man Sky. It only took 23h [15:13:53] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o technicalfool' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [15:14:45] and this is the improved version [15:18:46] Mars http://www.dlr.de/dlr/en/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-10081/151_read-25327/ [15:29:07] Althego: It's a never ending display of slightly different planets [15:29:45] I'll finish the main story and try out the base construction stuff, but it's just not good enough [15:30:05] Also, it feel slightly like a console port on the PC [17:02:16] KrazyKrl u there? [17:49:54] any man's sky? [17:50:14] Fluburtur, will do your craft tomorrow - i am just too plain tired today [17:50:21] ok [17:50:24] any person's sky :) [17:50:29] the pc version :) [17:50:54] and we can also argue about whether this applies to ais or not :) [17:53:22] how about just "sky" [17:54:16] all your planets are belong to us [17:54:28] except europa, attempt no landing there [17:54:37] use them together, use them in peace [17:55:01] https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/680355 Here you go. No Man's Sky experience is free. [17:55:05] Action: transitbiker reveals himself to be a 1+4+9 object [17:55:19] Seriously, that's the entire game. [17:56:29] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jWtz3rzco [17:56:29] YouTube - Jurassic Park No Man's Sky Harmonica video from reddit NOT MINE [17:56:56] classic [18:03:05] indeed [18:03:27] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdPdkw5uYxo [18:03:27] YouTube - Heavy Transport Truck Gone Wrong !!! Amazing Extreme Trucks Operator Skills [18:13:58] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knrHPneSN10 [18:13:58] YouTube - Nuclear Fusion Energy: The Race to Create a Star on Earth [18:40:58] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:41:03] Blaank: I don't have flash... what's that thing about? [18:41:11] Hi! [18:48:17] It's literally No Man's Sky [18:48:30] Well, everything that makes the game uniuqe and interesting. [18:48:37] It's spot on. [18:56:19] Because I didn't follow the hype, I don't understand the hate [19:01:39] ladies and gentlemen, which will win, the tokamak or the stellerator? [19:01:46] place your bets now! [19:02:32] well there is the natian ignition facility or what is its name with the lasers, but i kind of wrote that off [19:04:25] prototype fusion plant? [19:05:13] tokamak [19:05:19] because og iter [19:07:02] but msot of the research went int otokamak for decades and nothing happened [19:10:50] the thing at Cern seems to get more attention.. ugh black holes, really? [19:11:04] but cern doesnt do fusion [19:12:25] no.. just slams things into other things... [19:12:48] yet.. people still thought.. oooh black hole will suck it down.. but anyways.. [19:18:37] NIF isn't entirely orthogonal to e.g. ITER [19:18:49] it's just about ignition, which is actually a pretty tricky thing [19:21:19] apparently nothing is simple in fusion [19:31:28] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [19:31:33] Evening, Gentlemen. [19:35:21] can't we just drop fusion bombs into an underground lake, run the steam thru a turbine and call that a fusion reactor [19:37:07] or "fusion-boosted geothermal" [19:55:11] Sons and daughters of Kerbin: Pluto is still not a planet. [19:56:50] Continued claims to the contrary will be punished severely. [20:05:48] he's a dog [20:08:42] Action: Scolar_Visari decides to uninstall Rome II once more, unconvinced naval battle is worth the effort. [20:09:45] the old ones are the best ones [20:09:50] Scolar_Visari: Uh, so why did you just revoke the solar system's outermost planet's title? [20:10:07] APlayer: You're mistaken, the outermost known planet is Neptune. [20:10:22] sandbox: I actually liked Empire and Shogun 2, but Rome 2 is a whole lot of meh. [20:10:58] Action: Scolar_Visari would've really liked a DLC that involved the Persian Empire circa Cyrus the Great. [20:11:03] i am really hoping for planet 9 [20:11:07] I never played anything past Napoleon [20:11:18] but however big it is, it moves slowly an very far away according to prediction [20:11:59] sandbox: Shogun 2 is a bit easier naval battle wise, and the Fall of the Samurai expansion pack is great fun. [20:12:07] Action: Scolar_Visari recommends FotS for Napoleon and Empire players. [20:12:20] Althego: That's Planet IX to you! [20:12:25] I think I own FotS, but I've never installed it [20:12:45] hehe and the ixians live there :) [20:12:52] with high tech :) [20:13:07] sandbox: Artillery is dominatingly useful in it. [20:13:21] Action: Scolar_Visari always makes a beeline to Armstrong breach loading cannons. [20:14:23] Though it is quite possible to play FotS as a, "traditional" faction, particularly in the early game. Peasant musket levees are little match for thousands of charging yari ashigaru. [20:16:06] Though they struggle against modern breach loader armed infantrymen with the kneeling fire ability. [20:16:37] Also: Gatling guns built in provinces with fully upgraded gunsmiths. [20:17:23] And, gulp, repeater carbine cavalry. [20:26:17] Naval battles are also a bit easier than in Napoleon and Empire, as all ships are steam powered, and the use of explosive and advanced AP ammunition can make them brutally short affairs. [20:26:24] lol, neptune is planet 9 [20:26:56] what [20:26:57] oren: You're mistaken. Neptune is Planet VIII. [20:27:15] if you count ceres in maybe [20:27:33] duhhh, round, orbits the sun. planet. [20:27:47] actually no [20:27:55] according to the international definition of the planet [20:28:07] it also "needs to clear its neighborhood" [20:28:22] whic is stupid because even jupiter has things there [20:28:29] all the planets have asteroids in close porximity [20:28:35] exactly [20:28:50] Althego: The idea is not that they lack debris in their orbit, but that they dominate their orbit by mass. [20:28:53] but anyway now if you are part of an asteroid belt, you are not a planet [20:29:07] hello? [20:29:11] hi [20:29:13] Action: Scolar_Visari notes the Jovian Trojans, while rivaling the Asteroid Belt in net mass, are still dwarfed by Jupiter. [20:29:15] lol [20:29:19] silly bot [20:29:19] Althego: I want them to also revise the definition of a moon [20:29:34] phobos and deimos are not real moons [20:29:53] oren: Astronomers beg to differ. [20:30:03] and jupiter has 4 moons, not 90 [20:30:18] what clasifies as a moon? [20:30:25] FreeThinker: It orbits a planet. [20:30:27] a round thing that orbits a planet [20:30:35] Only big balls of ice cream [20:30:39] it has to be rounded by its gravity [20:30:49] Oren's attempting to use hydrostatic equilbrium as another characteristic, which astronomers do not use. [20:30:55] It's more difficult to think of things that aren't dwarfed by jupiter. Inside the solar system, at least. [20:30:58] ...so, a round pebble classifies? [20:31:00] Supernovy: The Sun! [20:31:03] qualifies* [20:31:16] Scolar_Visari: That's one, go on. [20:31:19] APlayer: Hydrostatic equilibrium covers fairly massive objects. [20:31:27] Supernovy: Uh . . . unseen WIMPs? [20:31:31] then what are the moons of asteroids and kuiper belt objects? [20:31:45] Too bad KSP orbit model is so limmited [20:31:46] Althego: Exactly why oren's definition isn't terribly useful. [20:31:55] FreeThinker: We have Principia, though! [20:31:58] FreeThinker: Principia comes to your aid [20:31:59] A moon should be defined as a 1) natural object that 2) orbits a planet that is also 3) convenient to call a moon [20:32:02] Scolar_Visari: how many moons does saturn have, and is that more or less than the number of sand grains on the shores of the pacific ocean [20:32:29] oren: A lot. Again, astronomers get to set the definition. If you don't like it, tough. [20:32:35] planets and moons can only spin vertically on one axis [20:32:36] Action: Scolar_Visari glares at Alan Stern. [20:32:50] FreeThinker: Sometimes that spin can get reversed! [20:32:51] Really, it's weird how all those things like moons and planets need waterproof definitions, as if they were laws that could lead to trouble if a loophole was discovered [20:33:09] Scolar_Visari: I'm not talking orbital mechanics [20:33:13] I mean, all those scientists can't wait to file a lawsuit that Ceres is actually a planet [20:33:21] FreeThinking: Venus got its spin reversed. [20:33:42] Atmospheric braking retrograde orbit, hurray! [20:33:45] FreeThinker: uranus spins on it's side [20:33:48] How is that possible? [20:34:02] FreeThinker: The Venusian atmosphere. [20:34:10] Yes, but we cannot achieve it in KSP, not really [20:34:27] RSS adds inclined rotational axes [20:34:38] No idea how, but I guess it is possible after all [20:34:38] And Principia adds n-body physics! [20:34:56] Looks like Humble Bundle has a 48-hour sale on KSP, 50% off. [20:34:57] i think there is one object in the solar system that is orbiting in the wrong direction [20:35:09] is it a comet [20:35:11] ok there is one moon that is also orbiting retrograde [20:35:12] Althego: Perhaps. Triton orbits Neptune in the 'wrong' direction too. [20:35:23] the problem with Principa is that persistant strust effect do not work with it [20:35:34] Action: Scolar_Visari notes Triton is almost certainly a captured Kuiper Belt Object. [20:35:57] triton is a valid moon though. nice and round [20:36:03] See now that would be an interesting addition to KSP, a planet with multiple moons, one of which is orbiting retrograde relative to the others. [20:36:13] oren: Roundness is irrelevant. [20:36:19] FreeThinker: Well, given that Persistent Thrust never worked for me no matter what I tired... [20:36:23] Supernovy: That'd also be really fun to run into! [20:36:45] Supernovy: Principia. [20:36:49] For KSPIE Bussard Ramjet Magnetic scoop I implemented atmospheric, solarwind and interstellar drag effect [20:36:51] Retrobop. [20:37:04] which work ferfectly in KSP [20:37:04] APlayer: I was thinking of just spelling the host planet's name backwards. [20:37:05] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_BZ509 [20:37:07] APlayer: Dialogues [20:37:14] except when principa is installed [20:37:24] Pob [20:37:53] it'd be really fun to figure out the transfer window phase angle to it from another moon. [20:38:05] Action: Scolar_Visari checks to see what Alan Stern's up to now. [20:39:19] does anyone here play KSPIE? [20:41:11] Action: Scolar_Visari rolls eyes at a two page paper that pretty much says: "If it's vaguely round it's a planet!" [20:41:23] I'm on stock for now. [20:41:46] stockton darlington :) [20:41:56] Scolar_Visari: I think it has to orbit a star, in a vaguely circular orbit [20:42:08] a round comet doesn't count [20:42:18] And cleaned up vaguely most of the debris around its orbit [20:42:37] which comets don't do, in fact, they dirty their orbits. see: meteor showers [20:42:40] what about a miniature blackhole, about the mass of the mun [20:42:42] oren: Nope. Stern et al. actually add that orbit is irrelevant in their definition. [20:42:55] Because of rogue planets? [20:43:17] Scolar_Visari: that's stupid. then what are moons [20:43:27] oren: Stern would classify them as planets. [20:43:58] stupid, look we have a heirarchy of thingies: Star, planet, moon, moomin [20:44:15] moomin? [20:44:19] what is that [20:44:20] oren: It's just moons after planets. I know, again, you don't like it, but astronomers really don't care. [20:44:38] Sort of like how they don't care that Stern has been upset since 2006. [20:44:48] Althego: slurred together moon of moon [20:45:02] those are usually not stable in the long run [20:45:34] hehe, reminds me of the beginning of 2010, "have you checked the orbit?" [20:45:35] A sub-moon? [20:45:52] Althego: Check yo orbits? [20:45:52] APlayer: that could work too [20:45:57] and then they realize they have to go now, but only ther russians have a ship ready [20:47:00] ... sub satellite... [20:47:12] Moon de la Moon [20:48:11] though... only saying because, mun probe carrying a little sub probe.. or lander thing [20:48:52] Anyway, i would accept their "clearing of orbit" thing if it had a reasonable deifnition like "body is over 50% of the mass in its belt" [20:49:17] ugh... do all the delta v maps start at 8km above mun's surface for orbit stuff? what if I wanna be 25 or 30km up? [20:49:17] Once more... Why do you need a waterproof definition? [20:49:27] no wonder my probe had problems getting bac to orbit. [20:49:37] If it is a planet by common sense, historical value or whatever, let it be a planet [20:49:40] oren: There are many definitions. Stern, in fact, was one of the first to champion the use of clearing orbits and employed several such definition formulas. [20:49:45] If it is not, do not let it be a planet [20:50:05] Why waste time thinking up definitions as if that was a legally relevant thing? [20:50:07] APlayer: because we need to able to number the planets around a star, the moons of a planet, etc into a system [20:50:20] Amusingly, Stern's last paper on the subject completely mischaracterized the IAU's meaning of, "clearing the neighborhood". [20:50:28] e.g. our moon is Sol-III-1 [20:50:54] oren: Again, why not rely on common sense when classifying planets? [20:51:04] why not give the sun a number too? [20:51:16] Supernovy: Sol A? [20:51:28] To be contrast with Sol B, which is clearly Nemesis. [20:51:34] Or Jupiter. [20:51:36] Just count all the stars in the galaxy and when you get up to sol, that' will be our number. [20:51:39] There will always be grey zones, but we can of course spend millions and thousands of research hours towards thinking up waterproof definitions... And re-thinking them when they fail. [20:51:58] this is what i thought when moomin was mentioned https://youtu.be/SZxbcVmZ8u8?t=16 [20:51:58] YouTube - Jack O'Neill vs the ancient repository [20:52:31] way I look at it.. we still learning. We hadn't expected things to be so unexpected prior to sending out our craft to the solar system [20:52:51] JCB: The, ah, "demotion" of Pluto was not an unprecedented event, either. [20:52:55] Poor Ceres. [20:53:13] but how did we get to neptune being 9th? [20:53:19] ceres is over 33% of the mass in the asteroid belt [20:53:37] but not over 50% [20:53:57] untill new horizons.. we only knew so much of Pluto... [20:54:28] JCB: Well it was generally thought of as being similar to Triton, which is also a geologically active body with an interesting albeit fairly puny atmosphere. [20:54:58] some have considered it a binary planetary system [20:54:59] I suppose geologically active is the only word I can use to describe bodies with lots of cryovolcanism. [20:55:29] cryologically active [20:55:57] Originally, Triton itself was suspected to have liquid nitrogen seas. [20:56:36] No liquid helium? [20:56:40] Action: APlayer is disappointed [20:57:03] Helium's odd stuff. [20:57:06] imagine that. we would go there to drain the liquid helium lakes [20:57:21] but it is not cold enough for that [20:57:39] Pluto's a bit out of the way for materiel in any event. [20:58:52] Althego: Mission proposal: Cool Jupiter to sub-He-condensation temperatures, launch a big pipe, gather liquid helium [20:59:02] Amazon delivery might cooperate [20:59:03] hehe [20:59:33] Uranus is your best bet if you want helium, courtesy of its low gravity at 1 atmosphere of pressure level. [20:59:57] Though we have plenty on Earth right now. [20:59:58] just collect it from the moon [21:00:06] not so much [21:00:07] I thought we were running out of helium on Earth. [21:00:10] it is running out [21:00:17] Well, if we do fusion reactors, we shall have Helium as a by-product [21:00:25] Nope, not any more. [21:00:35] how so? [21:00:35] http://www.eag.eu.com/about/media/lightness-of-helium/ [21:01:39] Anyway, I'm off for now [21:01:43] For today, that is [21:01:48] See you! [21:01:51] can we not just manufacture helium by decaying lithium [21:02:14] after hitting it with a nuetron [21:02:39] oren: That's actually for tritium and helium-3 production. [21:02:44] yet my room mate freaks out, oh no.. going to run out of copper soon.. eh.. [21:03:16] Helium-3 being a daughter product of tritium, while helium-4 is produced by deuterium-tritium fusion. [21:03:28] oh right. well, helium 3 superconduscts jsut as well hopefully [21:03:53] copper is also interesting [21:04:15] we would run out of copper if every human used as much copper as we in developed countries [21:04:30] Althego: Clearly we need to return to lead piping. [21:04:41] mostly because of electricity [21:04:43] Or replace it with gold. [21:04:48] all the wires and cables [21:04:51] haha [21:05:03] which is even more rare [21:05:27] Psht, we can get more. [21:05:42] Althego: all you do is project quicksilver over iron and boom you getcopper [21:05:45] mm.. mining the solar system [21:06:08] or you can fuse two iron atoms into a copper atom [21:06:22] JCB: The recovery of heavy elements like Gold from asteroids is a bit of a pain, as it's typically distributed rather diffusely where on Earth there are geological and hydrological processes that concentrate it. [21:07:01] So to get gold from an asteroid, you'd have to move and process a hideous amount of dirt without the neato chemical proceses we have on Earth. [21:07:17] Though I suppose mercury poisoning would be less of an issue. [21:07:34] Water, however, is mercifully easy to acquire. [21:09:02] "There's water in them rocks!" [21:09:35] perhaps though its better than nothing. [21:10:00] the asteoid mining company (forgot their name) want to mine water. because you c an make rocket fuel with sunlight [21:10:02] Water's more important to human life than gold. [21:10:16] and water is abundant [21:10:26] Althego: The water itself could be used as propellant, with bonus points for being quite storable. [21:10:29] there was talk about making fuel on mars with a base station... already know we can make o2 on moon regolith [21:10:29] so if it is already in space and can be used to refill [21:10:37] then it is a huge resource [21:10:47] JCB: Oxygen in Lunar regolith would require a lot of energy to recover, as its bonded to other things. [21:11:06] i tought moon minerals lak oxygen [21:11:17] Althego: Oxygen is THE most common element on the moon. [21:11:32] oh wait it was water [21:11:46] http://fti.neep.wisc.edu/neep602/LEC12/IMAGES/soil_comp.JPG [21:12:26] Water is rarer than was once thought, and recovery on the Moon would be problematic. [21:12:53] In contrast to Mars, where water exists on and below the surface with free atmospheric carbon-dioxide to boot. [21:15:33] considering you get 2 weeks of sun each shot... [21:15:39] mind you 2 weeks of darkness too but whatever [21:15:39] C-type asteroids also have worthwhile amounts of water trapped within, and accessing it could be done by baking the material out. [21:16:30] JCB: Amusingly, water could be used as the material for hydrogen fuel cells needed to store energy for Lunar nights. [21:17:00] Excess thermal energy created during the day time could also be stored in molten Lunar rocks for later recovery. [21:17:54] Action: Scolar_Visari points to Colozza's, "Analysis of Lunar Regolith Thermal Energy Storage" from 1991 http://denning.atmos.colostate.edu/readings/lunar.regolith.heat.transfer.pdf [21:17:57] hehe like molten salt power plant [21:18:17] Althego: Less like molten salts and more like siphoning energy from a pool of molten magma underneath a volcano. [21:18:42] i think i better sleep [21:18:56] There are a few other papers on the subject, too. [21:19:04] But I haven't gotten to flywheel energy storage yet! [21:19:17] with superconductor in vacuum? [21:19:39] I was thinking of just regular conductors in lieu of supercoolant use. [21:19:50] Think about it: You could make the flywheel in situ! [21:20:14] i thought these were primarily used for momentary energy loss compensation, not for continuous run [21:20:49] You can use them for rather long term storage if need be. [21:21:49] There are power grids which do this, in fact, and maintenance free flywheel storage units would be of particular interest for Lunar or Martian bases. [21:23:01] Action: Scolar_Visari leaves to ponder the lifetime of large electric grid batteries and their diminishing performance returns. [21:34:57] doh.. [21:36:01] https://youtu.be/rGkseGFQLh4 for you, JCB [21:36:02] YouTube - JCB Song - Nizlopi (Full Version HQ) [21:38:53] Action: JCB face palms [21:39:02] ah ya... the tractor company... [21:39:17] this just my initials... [21:40:40] that is whow the company got its name, those are initials too [21:40:46] *how [21:41:00] and it is just a fun song [21:41:45] I worked for a company named Net Daemons Associates, but the CEO (who chose the name) would say "Hello, No Dogs Allowed" on the phone sometimes [21:43:17] https://youtu.be/DwYuHqCwXFI [21:43:18] YouTube - Giant 13kJ RUBY LASER CANNON! Test Shots and Overview!! [21:44:58] well.. if it helps, I'm not Joseph Cyril Bamford... [21:45:41] mind you.. I probably should have JBC.... middle and last initial was switched [21:47:30] well, atleast you aren't Meg(atron) [21:49:17] ... ok? [21:51:20] Meg Griffin? [21:52:20] here I thought femme bot megatron... oops [21:52:34] ya sorry.. didn't exactly follow family guy stuff [21:53:02] neither do i, but i am a Transformers fan [21:56:07] https://youtu.be/D7sj7L1uLiw [21:56:07] YouTube - 4 Ton Wrecking Ball in Slow Motion - The Slow Mo Guys [21:57:59] What is the moon made of mostly? [21:59:38] rip internet [21:59:55] or lets say about ~320M users rip [22:00:59] FireFlower: politics? [22:01:43] looks like politics to me [22:02:12] where these guys from? Quite a few american stuffs.. [22:10:08] eh anyways