[01:01:26] why hasnt real solar system been updated? [01:02:04] I dunno, why? [01:02:23] hello where is everyone? [01:02:50] why hasnt rss been updated? [01:04:02] I don't know, what hasn't rss been updated? [01:04:04] well where can i get a 4k milkey way askybox [01:07:19] are you under the effects of alcohol or drugs [01:17:02] Action: JCB ehs...? [01:17:28] Action: Arynnia appears [01:17:29] I see ... life... [01:17:31] heyos [01:21:45] you see more than i do [01:24:15] I seem to think more than I see things... [01:27:04] He's seen things you people wouldn't believe. [01:31:38] one person's mind.. another persons hell [01:31:53] or .... one person's personal hell, perhaps somethign that shouldn't be let out [01:35:54] Speaking of hell, I just beat DoomRL for the first time [01:36:57] lol... rogue-like... not real life [01:37:21] had to look that up.. not often hear about rogue type games these days [01:38:16] er well.. there is a text version as well as pixel top down [01:40:24] It's a fun game [01:43:16] Action: JCB tries to figur eout the XL2 rover wheels a little more [01:54:49] *seeing how fast I can type with a mouse* [01:55:09] Not too bad, actually. [01:55:55] In my opinion, only one good phone game exists. [01:56:12] And it's a roguelike. [01:56:30] Cardinal Quest II. [01:56:47] lol... wow.. can almost hit 120m/s with these giant wheels [01:57:39] The interesting thing about that one is that health is a non-renewable resource. [01:57:50] ok... can I disable collision in the debug menu somehow? [01:58:05] My wrist is getting hecka tired. [01:58:47] Your character does not regain hit points over time. [01:59:25] lol... 6 wheels.. waaay faster. [01:59:41] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [01:59:54] ponder, wonder how this would be as a wheeled launcher.. pulls a good 5gs with traction turned all way up [02:00:25] Spells recharge over time... except for the healing spell, which only recharges as you kill enemies, of which there are finitely many. [02:01:33] lol.. bouncing as crud though.. hmm.. fins [02:03:51] lol... abusing skid steer on these wheels just.. crazy [02:04:19] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [02:04:26] all right... anyone using the ART mod by Roverdude? [02:10:01] My asteroids keeps changing size between reloads :( [02:11:54] Warrigal_, DoomRL only allows healing through consumables, which are non-renewable [02:29:23] ok... I'm at the point where I'm editing my save files... anyone know how I can just move the asteroid further from the craft? [02:33:56] change its position [02:36:21] Arynnia: I was trying to change the grabbing unit's position... [02:36:28] didn't work [02:36:37] I'm now messing with the asteroid itself [02:40:54] worked [02:41:02] back to haversting [03:05:59] what rpg do i do [03:06:02] pokemon or otherwise [03:06:34] mabus: What system(s) do you have? [03:06:46] You could try Chrono Trigger [03:09:41] i beat chrono trigger a couple times [03:09:54] i can play most consoles [03:12:51] mabus: What are you looking for, specifically? [03:14:08] Because I would say: try the 'trails in the sky' series [03:14:35] Or maybe 'I Am Setsuna' [03:14:51] hm havent heard of those [03:15:09] just looking for stat and xp turn based combat [03:15:36] Trails is a recent translation... [03:15:53] And 'I Am Setsuna' is a Switch title [03:17:21] Hey folks. I've been playing with Galileo's Planet Pack - brilliant mod, so nice to have some fresh content - but Ciro looks a bit strange. [03:17:39] mabus: or just chekc Something like https://www.reddit.com/r/JRPG/comments/p3fes/rjrpg_official_recommended_games_list_for_all/ [03:18:03] Anyone seen something like https://imgur.com/a/7vTCQ - is that a scatterer effect that needs tweaking? [03:18:36] That's a bug with -something- that needs tweaking. [03:18:41] I never had that issue with GPP and scatterer\ [03:25:02] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [03:30:37] Found it. I had disabled the Lens Flare Shader troubleshooting something else, and that breaks the .... lens flares. Go figure. :D [03:42:10] JCB: IRC says you pinged me earlier? [04:11:44] oh... [04:12:00] I just posed >ehs...?< [04:12:25] Did you need something? [04:13:19] someone posted if another person was under influence of drugs and alcohol... I was like.. 'the hell..' sorta thing. Sorry, didn't mean confusion [04:15:04] Heh. Okay, no problem. [04:15:22] but since you there.. heyas [04:16:10] Heyas, I suppose. :-P [04:17:26] just have'n some munch with room mates... messing in ksp with some sandbox stuff... [04:18:36] I just finished gorging myself on Christmas dessert. I should go crash some rockets instead; it'd be healthier. [04:22:07] oh.. what was desert? [04:22:32] Apple pie and ice cream, followed by more apple pie and ice cream. [04:22:35] I should probably get around to doing some recordings like I keep telling myself. Just constantly worried about interuptions [04:23:16] ah.. I'd have just gone for hte icecream.. got some myself, plain, though left the bucket at a friend's place [04:27:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [06:10:12] why is mars a better spot than the moon for our first permanent extraplanetary base? or is it a toss up [06:10:43] if goal is exploition, space rocks is far better [06:11:00] there is supermetallic rocks that could supply earth for thousand years [06:11:21] also supercarbocous (spelling) with lots water, lighter elements, etc [06:11:47] Rolf: are you talking about Luna or Mars? [06:11:51] the goal is ostensibly a jump off point i guess, and viably being able to be self sustaining [06:11:59] umaxtu: i think hes saying asteroids and whatnot instead [06:12:05] neither. yeah mabus [06:12:08] moon is much much closer, tons easier to send shit to [06:12:29] but if we cant make fuel there its not that great of a jump off point right? [06:12:30] for base dunno, moon is certainly very close. we can easily build tether there [06:12:46] not as much on violites but earth is close [06:12:52] you can make aluminum fuel on the moon [06:12:56] though it's not the best [06:13:02] also H2 mining on the poles [06:13:07] mars has better gravity and lots iron and stuff [06:13:30] iron is useless if it's rust [06:13:38] I think part of it is that humans haven't visited mars yet. [06:13:41] you need proper ore deposits [06:13:41] but needs lot of work to rebuild air, as well as deeper well for jump off point. tether is also still possible with our tech [06:13:49] Kracc: rust - oxygen = iron [06:13:55] we need oxygen also so win win [06:14:10] the dust on mars has a looot more than just rust in it [06:14:21] toxic petrochlorates, silicon, etc etc [06:14:28] yep other issue [06:14:36] moon dust wow its machine killer [06:14:42] plus, the moon has a very similar composition to earth [06:17:16] I wouldn't mind a place on the moon... sort of like having a tree house outside the home back in childhood years [06:17:19] so why would elon musk want to pick mars over moon, something specific to his mission? [06:17:32] elon musk isn't a perfectly rational being [06:17:38] nether is us [06:17:39] as with anything to do with Elon musk... go big or go home.. or just PR stunt [06:17:54] mars window is coming up soon [06:17:58] elon can be a bit nutty, and mars has always been his stated goal [06:17:58] so he just wanna do something [06:18:01] feasibility or not [06:18:28] if I recall he wanna send one of his car to orbit between earth and mars (or venus?) also [06:18:39] musk have big vision but dunno if possible [06:19:57] to be fair, I felt the same way when he first announced they would be vertically landing first stages [06:20:07] his car is already on falcon heavy.. [06:20:19] they just need to stand it up and it'll go zoom.. :\ [06:20:25] personaly, I think its a waste of a car [06:20:36] it's a waste of a rocket [06:20:40] umaxtu: yeah. it was insane. I knew it would be very hard., and he did it [06:21:33] Kracc: only if the launch is a success. If it fails, its just a clever mass simulator [06:22:32] Kracc: oi language [06:22:50] forgot this channel had a G-rating [06:23:32] 9.82 G [06:24:39] eh.. I heard people go nuts over spilled beer... [06:54:54] whats the ksp take on that pentagon ufo guy https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html [07:23:45] that's quite an expletive UFO [07:44:16] There's something so odd about that program [07:44:27] Mostly that the money goes to Bigelow in a way [07:44:31] And he's crazy [07:46:34] what program? [07:46:48] https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/16/us/politics/pentagon-program-ufo-harry-reid.html [07:51:18] wake up, sheeple [07:51:24] the end of times is near [07:51:27] WAKE UP, SHEEPLE [07:51:38] only sheeple can defend us from aliens! [07:53:48] bees: https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/wake_up_sheeple.png [07:54:39] https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/sheeple.png also works well [07:59:39] Ever since the advent of cell phone cameras, alien sightings have gone down. [07:59:47] funny. [08:00:55] Twist: aliens account for that and stopped visiting so much [08:32:04] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [09:16:54] so today I managed to control myself and not buy any magnets that I don't need [09:17:10] zou alwazs need more magnets [09:17:27] then I cleaned up my desk just a little bit and found additional things that I could hang from magnet hooks [09:17:50] i recommend a 4 tesla superconductor magnet :) [09:22:17] they don't have them at the 100 yen stores though [09:47:35] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o Supernovy' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [10:01:59] Last message repeated 1 time(s). [10:01:59] GlassYuri: why though [10:02:10] Trying to freak out the ICP [10:02:11] why what? [10:02:12] ? [10:02:23] Magnets. What are you doing with magnets [10:02:57] hanging things to the frame of my desk mostly [11:37:12] https://78.media.tumblr.com/8ea5743f2cd1f0ad0bc96eebc84ed080/tumblr_mhmn3zh76O1qgu2wio1_540.jpg [11:40:42] strange bird [11:40:59] he big boi [11:47:52] I still have the photo of the fox hanging out with his sheep buddies [12:00:26] https://78.media.tumblr.com/2e43aa887105a39e2d02f66975941594/tumblr_p074c4ppFb1qg9yhjo1_540.jpg [12:04:32] old [12:04:43] this happened weeks ago [12:04:47] good [12:47:53] I'm not sure how they figure that Mars has been observed to be round. [12:48:40] I'm still laughing at that guy planning to send a rocket up to less than 1km and is powering it off some absurd method. [12:48:50] When we have planes that get to 4km with no issues. [12:49:10] pretty usual to fly at 10 km [12:49:13] I'm talking Cessna 172 has a higher altitude than his rocket. [12:49:20] just buy an airplane ticket lol [12:49:24] yeah [12:49:29] $80 [12:49:55] So he's building a rocket in his back yard with a 40 degree launch angle because I guess he can't do math. [12:50:20] url? [12:50:25] He's going for altitude, but going sideways, and going lower than cheap single engine propeller planes. [12:50:45] No idea. I forget what it was. He's a flat earther and doesn't believe in math or science. [12:51:31] >Latest Rocket Test Crash With the firmament Dome Over the Flat earth [12:51:32] what [12:52:00] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2017/11/21/this-man-is-about-to-launch-himself-in-his-homemade-rocket-to-prove-the-earth-is-flat/ I guess this is it. [12:52:07] Nobody else makes a rocket to go up less than 1km [12:52:09] sounds just like him [12:52:24] hehe [12:52:31] at least use a balloon [12:52:37] I know. [12:52:47] Even freaking hot air balloons can outperform this thing. [12:52:54] I don't get the point. [12:55:22] come on. a flat earther. everything is a lie. so has to use the methods they say are the least effective [12:56:51] think he just wants to go 1km because too worried, might break his beliefs? [12:57:03] Well, he might break his neck... [12:57:21] I hope not, he might become some kind of martyr [12:57:23] 200m should be more than enough to disprove a flat earth [12:58:17] mind you, a level with sights is needed [12:58:24] oh wait.. steam powered rocket huh? [12:58:27] (I've yet to test it out) [12:58:34] Yeah [12:58:39] got everything I need, though [12:58:44] I can sea the earth curvature witht he camera of my rc plane [12:58:49] Not sure why steam instead of compressed air or .... maybe literally using rocket fuel? [12:58:52] but it's a wide angle lens so it doesn't count I guess [12:58:53] hmm.. anyone else done steam powered rockets and gotten 1km up? [12:59:13] How terrible is Stem as a propellant? [12:59:17] I can see why steam, not air... water vapour carries more mass [12:59:19] I'd expect pretty freaking bad. [12:59:22] (the theory is that the horizon drops perceptibly with simple tools even at 200m) [12:59:31] Then use a compressed air water rocket. [12:59:39] steam rocket lol [12:59:45] Then climb a freaking mountain. [12:59:45] I see guys do water bottle rockets [12:59:51] you can prove earth curvature with a camera drone [12:59:52] You can already get 3km up easily. [12:59:53] JCB: actually, water vapor carries /less/ mass [12:59:55] at sunset [13:00:05] compressed air, pushes mass of water out a nozzle, its pretty effective [13:00:08] or accidentally as is did with a plane ticket again [13:00:14] only 18g/mole instead of 28(N2) or 32(O2) [13:00:24] At what pressure? [13:00:41] I don't know how he's planning to flash boil this, either. [13:00:51] uranium [13:00:53] probably already turned to steam [13:01:05] But it's going to cool down super quickly. [13:01:10] probably wind up with a steamed flatearther [13:01:21] if air carries more.. why not just air powered trains? [13:01:22] FAA is having none of it. [13:01:32] JCB: because you want less [13:01:46] lower mass allows for higher Isp [13:02:13] all depends... [13:02:23] water > steam creates a very very large volume of expansion and it is accomplished by applying heat, which is very easy to do. [13:02:39] for the same chamber temperature, lower molecular mass will give higher Isp [13:02:43] same thrust, though [13:03:22] My main issue with this is it's all done easier and better by other methods. [13:04:02] korsene vs cyrogenics... each has ups and downs. [13:04:13] And then we can probably convince him that the government has him stuck in the matrix when he went to sleep one night. [13:04:14] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_engine#Propellant_efficiency [13:04:40] while one works better, it has down sides as well [13:05:07] The Mythbusters air powered boat was pretty funny. [13:05:17] It was like farting in a bathtub. [13:05:24] About as effective at moving it. [13:05:52] Though I didn't expect the loose air tank to be as destructive as it was. [13:07:02] eh well.. if they maybe used the compressed air to run a prop.. may have been more effective [13:07:24] That's what I was thinking about. [13:07:34] not so much what spits out the back, its how you use that power [13:08:06] high bypass jet engines, even turbo props sorta work the same way... [13:08:29] you have your engine, producing hte power, while it spits high power out the back, its actually the big fan on the front that does most of hte owrk. [13:08:49] ... does most of the work. ugh.. this holiday is messing with me a little. [13:14:51] https://78.media.tumblr.com/319962fded17122eff500acc8c377945/tumblr_inline_osqbxmjTBt1tmsp4j_540.png [13:15:09] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvlXlPHv27k So colorful \o/ [13:15:09] YouTube - Christmas Lights 2017 - Kygo & Ellie Goulding - First Time (Frontliner Remix) [13:16:32] oh no [13:16:38] I have finished my last project [13:16:48] so I have no motivation or anything to do and I feel like crap [13:16:52] hmm... ok? [13:32:13] ugh... sad ksp can't handle the wheel physics on tail drager type planes too well [13:33:11] wheels are hard [13:33:20] but what is the problem? [13:36:07] Fluburtur: f-104 [13:36:24] Fluburtur: one of the weird f-104 derivatives [13:38:11] heh I did a f-104 in game as well... well two versions. just different noses [13:38:52] oh just... can't have main landing gear forwards of CoM else, plane wants to keep wind vaneing 180 [13:39:43] has to be nearly right under CoM. then there is near constant 'drifting', skidding around like you were on ice [13:40:08] but anyways... [13:44:01] https://i.imgur.com/nFQfCb3.jpg [17:43:53] Decided this game is no reverts. Hopefully I'll only waste money and not time. [17:47:32] Mathuin: and no bugs [17:48:50] This game need a radio station with ads in Kerbal language [17:51:38] Backwards masked Spanish? [17:51:53] yeah [17:52:22] Sounds like a good addon for Chatterer [17:52:24] kind of like in Simcopter or Cities: skylines [17:53:14] 5=8B! https://youtu.be/dLWsqQs8Iys [17:53:14] YouTube - @O<0O B@0=A;OF8O 70?CA:0 "5=8B-2S" A "=3>A0B" [17:53:15] it's one of the features I like in Fallout 3 and NV [17:54:26] Now I'm wondering what the KSP equivalent of jingle jangle jingle would be [17:57:04] what is this [17:57:31] angosat [17:57:44] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VceeDm5MSt4 [17:57:44] YouTube - Fallout New Vegas Soundtrack - (I've Got Spurs That) Jingle Jangle Jingle [17:59:55] Mathuin: https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout3/mods/14946/? , https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/40453/? and https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/637/? [18:00:28] Mathuin: you get Butcher Pete Part 2 [18:00:29] Oooh [18:01:35] I played Fallout 3 on the PS3 (GOTY, all the DLC) because I couldn't get it to work in Wine. [18:09:22] Johnny Guitar [18:14:20] sup [18:17:19] meh [18:18:28] I'm watching a slowly rotating PotatoRoid, trying to find a good spot to grab [18:23:11] dammit... [18:23:21] I might have to get rid of USI ART [18:25:28] I quicksave before grabbing the asteroid... and when I reload it's a different, smaller, asteroid [18:26:17] lol nice [18:26:44] I've been having a bitch of a time setting up asteroid missions lately, seemed like it wasn't nearly as painful last time I tried doing it [18:26:52] err language, sorry [18:27:09] been on discord too much [18:27:28] ART makes asteroids bigger... but it's buggy for me :/ [18:27:52] The mass and name stays, but the asteroids changes between size between reloads [18:28:13] yeah, I have had issues with other mods similar to that [18:28:33] like I really like the SEP mod, but at least on my system, whenever I change scenes away, the calibration on the experiments gets reset [18:28:55] It's more annying when you ship loads inside a bigger asteroid... [18:28:59] so I could have an experiment set to 175% calibration with a 17d duration, go to space center and come back [18:29:07] #KSPOfficial: mode change '+o APlayer' by ChanServ!ChanServ@services.esper.net [18:29:07] and then it'll be reset to 50% calibration and 75d duration [18:30:09] I don't mind if they stay bog or small, I can still excavate the inside and re-use it... [18:30:39] ...but make up your mind! Stay big or stay small! No magic resize [18:31:16] I'm thinking about getting the Mk4 spaceplane parts and manually adding some of the OPT wings tonight [18:31:26] I don't want to do full OPT because I think it's super OP [18:31:42] but I need a spaceplane that can carry 3.75m cargo [18:33:17] Hi there! Merry X-Mas and sorry for not having joined the party here! [18:33:23] I also jumped down the kOS rabbithole finally over the break [18:33:48] have already automated take off, ascent, and circularization for my spaceplanes [18:34:03] I got the Mario+rabbids game... so I'm going down THAT rabbids hole [18:34:03] I think it'll be a while before I can figure out how to autopilot landing though heh [18:34:26] I got my family a Switch for Christmas, we've been playing MK8 :) [18:35:04] WOAH! I got a 325000 tonnes asteroid... [18:35:15] no wonder I could not rotate [18:35:15] lol [18:35:36] my spaceplane ascents are so much more reliable now that I don't have to worry about the twitchy controls throwing me off heading [18:36:02] madmerlyn: Automate rockets. :P [18:36:07] I even wrote my script so it defaults to a 80km orbit, but when I call it I can specific my desired orbit as a parameter [18:36:41] well before I got started on the planes I spent an entire night working out orbit, payload dump, deorbit and land on the launchpad [18:36:48] madmerlyn: I boot with a default script at around 80km [18:36:50] quit after my first successful pad landing [18:37:02] What algorithm do you use for achieving orbit, though? [18:37:08] ^ [18:37:29] just a manual pitch adjustment [18:37:46] it became an obsession of mine to try to minimize dV [18:37:50] drops the pitch by 0.2 every 0.2 seconds until it hits 1 after 120m/s [18:38:02] I don't have a perfect rocket script yet heh [18:38:05] I soon learned that it's not trivial [18:38:15] problem I had when I finally landed on the pad though [18:38:38] was my rocket was big.. really big, for a 20t payload, and the cost per ton for the fuel when it was all said and done was over 3k [18:38:50] ve2dmn: Rocket science is not trivial, yes [18:38:51] :P [18:38:57] I can put a 55t payload in orbit on my planes for between 500 and 650 per ton [18:39:28] especially now that I've automated their ascents [18:39:43] automating the landing is going to be a big challenge though heh [18:39:49] I never managed to master the art of Spaceplane design [18:39:51] I've actually gotten really good at landing manually though [18:40:14] I either lose control of the plane, or lack enough TWR to make it into orbit [18:40:18] what do you mean by automated ascent? plane flies itself or you have a script flying it? [18:40:27] kOS [18:40:31] Black_Eagle: kOS [18:40:45] what's that? [18:41:21] I open kOS put `run gallahad.ks(100000).` and the plane will end up in a 100km orbit + or - 1km or so [18:41:22] https://ksp-kos.github.io/KOS/ [18:41:59] "kOS is an autopilot you script yourself. kOS is to programming, what Kerbal Space Program itself is to rocket science. You dont have to know what youre doing to get started, but you may find yourself learning a lot by accident as you play with it." [18:42:16] I like doing it with kOS a lot better than using something like MechJeb because I *wrote* it myself and didn't just download and punch numbers in [18:42:36] There is also kRPC if you prefer Python [18:42:47] so it's a script [18:42:48] I mean have to do that, I do prefer Python :P [18:42:52] might* [18:43:05] also I'm planning on building my own custom controller at some point as well [18:43:11] 17 minutes [18:43:15] is kRPC up to 1.3.1 yet though? [18:43:24] 17 minutes to what Althego? [18:43:30] until launch [18:43:39] just trying to remind mysel [18:43:40] I know it's not a SpaceX launch, I already watched the final launch of the year :P [18:44:56] yes Black_eagle it's a script that I wrote for my planes [18:45:09] Nice... the asteroid is so massive that I can only get 1m/s of dV with 8400 Liquid fuel [18:45:12] you have to put a kOS part on your plane, they have different memory sizes etc. [18:45:20] and then you tell it to run the script and away it goes [18:46:04] ve2dmn word on the street is the beta version of USI Constellation brought back planetary logistics [18:46:15] err orbital logistics I mean [18:46:37] as in surface to orbit, hopefully it only does it on planets that have reached the appropriate level of kolonization though [18:47:07] ve2dmn: Screenshots? [18:47:26] another neat thing I want to develop for my spaceplanes though is a kOS script with independent programmatic thrust control for VTOL [18:47:50] have it manually adjust thrust on individual VTOL engines to maintain pitch+altitude [18:48:08] APlayer: http://steamcommunity.com/broadcast/watch/76561197994451548/ [18:48:26] I had to stop using steam for my KSP, it was crashing it regularly [18:49:19] here are my planes etc. on KerbalX, most of them I've updated for 1.3.1, and the Gallahad I've expanded into an entire class of planes instead of just 1 https://kerbalx.com/madmerlyn/ [18:50:21] regular Gallahad can put 55t in 80km orbit, the L can do 18t to high orbit or about 26t to 80km [18:50:38] LC has same capabilities as the L roughly but with a crew configuration [18:50:43] I don't think I'm gonna be able to diverte that asteroid before it hits Kerbin [18:51:17] still working the bugs out of Lancelot Mk2 before I upload to KerbalX [18:51:31] I added a second optional parameter to my orbit kOS script for the Lancelot mk2 [18:51:57] the landing gear is too far back to properly lift the nose on the runway during takeoff, but I don't want to move the gear forward for fear of tailstrikes when landing [18:52:11] ve2dmn: Ion engines... Ion engines are your friend. [18:52:21] so I added "nosekicker" engines to the front of the plane, separatrons, that my script fires off when it's ready to nose up [18:52:27] APlayer: not enough TWR [18:52:37] Of course enough TWR [18:52:44] Also, they aren't unlocked yet [18:52:45] lol ion engines on a 325kton asteroid [18:53:33] Use clusters when in doubt, if the maneuver takes less than 12 hours in real time you're good to go [18:53:42] 20m/s burn, estimated burn time NaN [18:54:06] madmerlyn: right now? 33m/s. Estimated time 2d 4h [18:54:10] IIRC the stock engine provides 3.6 kN of thrust? [18:54:16] 2kN [18:54:20] What's the ISP? [18:54:26] over 9000 [18:54:48] Uh, 9000 indeed? [18:55:05] specific impulse is irrelevant to burn time for deltaV though, it only affects how long you can light the engines before you run out of fuel [18:55:28] big with asteroids, you make your own fuel [18:55:30] 4200 s [18:55:40] if you're trying to push around 325000 tons with ions, your burn times, even with a VERY large cluster are going to be unrealistically long [18:55:49] madmerlyn: It is directly relevant, as the amount of fuel you need to carry depends on it [18:56:17] right but that's not a factor on burn time for a 20m/s burn though [18:56:24] we're just talking about raw TWR here [18:56:44] even a gamebreaking large cluster of ions isn't going to provide a useful TWR on 325 kilotons [18:58:08] tweakscale / modded ions? [18:59:20] unrealistic IMO [18:59:26] what happened to the countdown? [18:59:53] �\_(�)_/� [19:00:32] hmm it started [19:00:33] launch! [19:01:04] yellog-blue flames [19:01:29] did I miss a launch again? [19:01:38]